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what is happening ladies and gentlemen

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thank you for joining me in the garage

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tonight as we take old blue out into the

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galaxy once more for another adventure

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another great conversation

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thank you so very much for joining me

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with your very precious time i think so

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often we forget just how precious time

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really is and i appreciate you spending

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your time with me

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having said that i'd like to just hit a

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few things if i could right off the bat

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don't forget to hit that like button if

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you have not please subscribe if you're

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just checking us out and if you could

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maybe share with a friend that'd be

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really helpful that's how i found many

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of the podcasts that i now enjoy myself

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is that somebody sent me a link and said

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hey check this out what do you think of

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this episode so if you could do that

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we'd really appreciate it i also want to

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give a shout out to those that are in

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here ben from the ufo garage podcast

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what's happening my brother thank you

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for being here tonight uh let's see we

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got 509 divine pines thank you brother

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for being around as well as ghost dragon

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zw you show so much support to all the

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different channels i don't know how you

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keep up with all of it as well as arlene

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thank you for being here tonight and we

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have wes h in the house says hi big

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willy and ufo garage thank you for

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coming and hanging out with us

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as we move on down the list here let's

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see oh mr gary voorhees and i'm assuming

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he has the uh he has the little stickers

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i just can't see him my miam but mr gary

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voorhees jr thank you for being here

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brother thank you for having a good

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night with us hopefully he will

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stoney thank you for being here do you

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stance against that i don't believe so

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enzo thank you brother for being here he

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says hello hello big willy and at the

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josh and artemis show who is my guest

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today by the way if you guys didn't know

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josh and artemis will be my guest we're

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going to get to them in just a minute

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here as we keep moving along we have

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kathy splash thank you for all you do

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and encouraging each and every one of us

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justin thank you for being here jason

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william that's a new one thank you for

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being here tonight appreciate you

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hanging out hopefully have a good time

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uh rainy cruise as well and who else we

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have chris chris jarvis thank you for

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being here with the cookie monster the

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cookie monster there the chat uh

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nightmare hey

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what is happening you're also someone

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who shows so much support actually

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everybody who's in here shows so much

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support and we all get to hang out in

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these different chats and i love it i

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really truly do

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uh just a couple things ah justin from

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down under right

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too bad i miss simon simon wells he has

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a different name now sometimes i don't

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recognize him when he comes in something

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like catboy i think if i see him tonight

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he's my twin from down under though

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hey ho he says the josh and artemis show

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who else do we have oh thank you asks

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for being here tonight as well

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all right guys so really quickly i want

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to let you guys know right at the top of

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the hour all right there's a couple

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i didn't have it ready i promise i'm

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this where did it go

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why won't it work all right we're going

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i thought it'd have it already was going

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to look super smooth

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it was going to be so slick i promise

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we'll do it this way all right guys so

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this is something you can check out

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obviously if you have not this is the

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ufo garage podcast webpage some people

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have actually asked about this lately

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and i had a clean blast you guys even

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have a web page

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heck yeah you think ben did not have a

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web page set up for us so this is a

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really cool thing that we have that i

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really enjoy and let me know it should

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want to go through here we have the main

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home page we have a lot of things we're

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doing we have doing doing our part

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they're giving back obviously guys every

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experience or support group and um that

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will happen quarterly i cannot remember

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the name i believe it is yeah archives

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anomaly archives in austin texas find

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its new home that is this quarters uh

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any support we have we'll be going

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towards that i do see it popping up

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there heck yeah obviously you can check

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all the other uh great guests we've had

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in the past right here as we move on

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down you got all the other podcasts you

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can keep up with and check this out oh

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geez mr gary voorhees junior look at

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that look at sonny conway over there the

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blessos oh my gosh i freak oh forgive me

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i forget your name i dang it i apologize

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if you are watching but you have many of

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our guests out here oh my gosh look at

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look at this guy right here look at that

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little sexy buster not jen smith sunny

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what is happening or not sunny i'm sorry

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louis over here so anyways we have all

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these different shirts as you guys know

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you're not familiar with that tonight

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i am having a beer judge me if you like

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but it's been a long week so as i crack

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that open and if i say suss and we take

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a sip of that or if someone in the chat

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says us please take a drink of whatever

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you were drinking tonight so we have

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those in different colors again i'm

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rambling but we have all this different

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stuff and what i'm most excited about

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why i want to talk about this

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is right here guys the ufo garage 22

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reunion november 4th through the 6th

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friday night through sunday afternoon

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i'm really excited about this actually

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i'm mainly excited the tiny houses are

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pretty cool but i'm really excited about

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the teepees because they're like sealed

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all kinds of other stuff oh harley uh

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cinema terry's going to be there it'll

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be all kinds of stuff and it is going to

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that honestly uh but enough about all of

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that also know we do appreciate all the

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amazing super chats if we get our first

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sus i will take a sip to that thank you

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one um but you can now donate if you'd

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like in the page we have linked in the

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show notes you can donate to the channel

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as a whole where you can donate to ben

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to joe or to myself it's up to you how

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you'd like to do it we have them all

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labeled out depending on who you want to

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support that way youtube doesn't always

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i mean we appreciate them but they

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stingy we're not shouldn't say stingy

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they're greedy a little greedy with what

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you guys donate and we prefer your money

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to go where you'd prefer to go

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having said all of that thank you enzo

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you're too kind project blue book

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there's some new ones coming in that i'm

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now missing as i was probably rambling

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off on the side i apologize do not

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chris the greatest smile of all time in

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all of ufology and akashi chris i'm very

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excited for everything her and i are

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going to chat about tonight

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but excuse me next week tonight though i

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have josh and artemis with me

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and i'm gonna read just a little bit

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about them this is something they put up

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and you know a lot of people are super

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familiar i feel like here's the weird

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thing with josh and artemis is that a

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bad thing they're grown like they've had

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i don't know if you guys have checked

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out their guest list but they've had

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some amazing guests on there and i kind

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and that's amazing because i feel like

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sometimes how people looked at like joan

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ben in the garage over here but i love

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the work that they're doing and i'm

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excited for tonight be able to chat with

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them and at the top of the hour probably

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after the first hour here we will open

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it up you guys can come on and hang out

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with them and chat with them yourselves

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and uh so don't don't be too worried

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about not be able to get a question you

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person-to-person with them but having

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said that this is what they had to say

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they said we created our channel

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together in september 2021. our main

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goal with the channel is to focus on a

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variety of topics we find fascinating

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consciousness consciousness and much

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we aim to provide the space for such

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conversations and hope to grow the

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community we have fun and learn along

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the way and what more can you ask for

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than that so having said all of that let

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us bring on the artemis and josh podcast

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ladies and gentlemen welcome to the show

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tonight thank you so very much for

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coming and hanging out with me here in

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the garage as we travel out with old

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blue and the uh the great unknown how's

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your evening going great we've uh just

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finished our show we had um joey aka

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spaghetti leon so

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he's a really cool guy we love speaking

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to joey so yeah we had a lot of fun i

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um yeah i'm catching up see if anybody

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in the chat anything if you guys did

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please put any questions in caps and

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i'll try to keep up with those because

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ladies um doing that the after hours

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now if you guys ever want to check me

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out there do that on the weekends we do

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the after hours with jemma jade uh thin

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do an amazing job running like all the

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stuff in the background now so i'm not

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as

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foremost thank you it is friday i'm

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excited about that cheers uh i know

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cheers right well let's talk about that

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what are we drinking at least over there

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iced tea yeah it's like a spiked iced

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tea oh yeah yeah that's fine at least

279
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you threw a spike out there i was like

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dang it i'm the only one having a beard

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tonight it was a weird friday it was

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like this friday thought it was a monday

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it got confused

284
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it was just a weird overall weird day

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but hey what are you gonna do

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um

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having said that

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let's start with and i know that you

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guys obviously talked about you you

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started the channel together it's

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september 1st or 20th yeah it was

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september 2021 there yeah like we didn't

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put up with our first video until

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october 15th which was greenwald our

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first show was john green jr which was

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scary as as hell yeah

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really was we were very very nervous for

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sure

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but it was it was amazing but it's good

300
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he's like a really cool guy i mean we

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speak to him privately as well now and

302
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we've got like a good relationship with

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john now yes he's a really nice guy like

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a really supportive guy behind the

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scenes

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so yeah we are planning to have him back

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on the show for sure yeah we're like we

308
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need a we need a second

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in there we need to do it you know we

310
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need a little bit of a do-over i mean it

311
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wasn't terrible it's just you know now

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with a bit more experience and time

313
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under the belt

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you have a bit more confidence uh

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in just our mannerism and

316
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just doing

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this really so yeah um

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well i think you guys have been doing a

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great job especially like and this is

320
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i'm appreciating that yeah as i say in

321
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no way hope no one took it at me saying

322
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you guys just getting started as any

323
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kind of you know shot or anything like

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that we are yeah we are just getting

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started like i don't see us as like an

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established

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channel if that makes sense like we've

328
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only got we haven't even got a thousand

329
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subs yeah so so we're just kind of new

330
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to all this but you know we're learning

331
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as we go and we're kind of um

332
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you know we're

333
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we're lucky in some ways because the

334
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community we've got and the people who

335
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are always there in our chats and stuff

336
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they help us a lot with questions and

337
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and um keeping the chat really

338
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entertaining and engaging so that's a

339
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big part of it as well as just the chat

340
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when you're doing the interviews is

341
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making sure that that's bouncing as well

342
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to keep everyone there and keep everyone

343
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interested so we're lucky that we've got

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a good um

345
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we've got a good support now so yeah

346
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very true

347
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you know i have to admit to you and

348
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there's such beauty it's like in

349
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anything right there's it's all about

350
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how we use any tool i don't want to say

351
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your community is a tool because i don't

352
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even know if i'm i'll be honest with you

353
00:12:01,030 --> 00:11:59,440
guys all right i don't know you guys

354
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feel about this or not i don't even know

355
00:12:05,269 --> 00:12:03,440
if i'm like in the community but i hang

356
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out with them but i don't know if i'm

357
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like in the community you know what i

358
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mean well by association yeah no but i

359
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think you are i mean

360
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we knew we knew who you were well before

361
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we ever spoke to you

362
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i'm like oh okay when you talk thank you

363
00:12:22,550 --> 00:12:20,399
you're like famous to us yeah like when

364
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you when you talk to us like in the chat

365
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i think it was on um that one time i was

366
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abducted yeah i was like oh that's so

367
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cool like big lily like likes us and

368
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like he's so cool

369
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i was like i'm talking to him about how

370
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we have like how i have kids and he has

371
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kids i was like that's so cool that's

372
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right that was the night we were trying

373
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yeah we were both arguing like these

374
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mother truckers i tell you what they're

375
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so oh yeah i was like we thought it was

376
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cool yeah that's just true

377
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yeah

378
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what's the community one thing i've

379
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really noticed about it uh oh enzo you

380
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were two guys as you are in the

381
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community um you know one of the things

382
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i find unique about this community as

383
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and i suppose it's the same with

384
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anything in life is that it's ever

385
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evolving right

386
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and people seem to struggle to find

387
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their foothold

388
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and sometimes get really married to

389
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their foothold so

390
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they take a position and as things

391
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evolve

392
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sometimes they're not willing to part

393
00:13:17,910 --> 00:13:15,279
with that yeah and they

394
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i have mixed feelings on that and and

395
00:13:20,870 --> 00:13:19,600
you know i suppose pros and cons of that

396
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well let's get to your guys's opinion

397
00:13:24,550 --> 00:13:22,160
first of all what are your guys's

398
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opinions on that for us people who have

399
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essentially been pillars in this

400
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community we're really we have

401
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them to think far as we're kind of

402
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standing on the shoulders of some giants

403
00:13:34,470 --> 00:13:33,120
that went before us when it wasn't cool

404
00:13:36,069 --> 00:13:34,480
to talk about the stuff it wasn't cool

405
00:13:37,430 --> 00:13:36,079
to come out and have a show

406
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discussing this

407
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what are your positions or your thoughts

408
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on people who are very married to the

409
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position they have and don't really seem

410
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to be budging on that

411
00:13:48,470 --> 00:13:46,160
i think it's difficult i mean we talked

412
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about it on our show today how um you

413
00:13:54,069 --> 00:13:52,079
know it's people trying to have um

414
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have like a validation for their belief

415
00:13:58,069 --> 00:13:56,320
if that makes sense that's like a lot of

416
00:13:59,750 --> 00:13:58,079
what it is on ufo twitter is people with

417
00:14:01,110 --> 00:13:59,760
a lot of their belief systems and

418
00:14:02,790 --> 00:14:01,120
they're just trying to have like a

419
00:14:05,350 --> 00:14:02,800
validation for those

420
00:14:07,829 --> 00:14:05,360
and and belief and true for two

421
00:14:09,509 --> 00:14:07,839
different things as well so yes

422
00:14:11,189 --> 00:14:09,519
when something comes out which might

423
00:14:14,069 --> 00:14:11,199
challenge their belief

424
00:14:15,910 --> 00:14:14,079
uh system you know if if they look look

425
00:14:18,150 --> 00:14:15,920
up to someone like a underwear like a

426
00:14:19,189 --> 00:14:18,160
stephen greer for example and someone

427
00:14:20,790 --> 00:14:19,199
questions

428
00:14:23,030 --> 00:14:20,800
that person they are going to get quite

429
00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:23,040
defensive about that it's it's the same

430
00:14:26,550 --> 00:14:25,120
with me i mean i'm like a huge and

431
00:14:29,030 --> 00:14:26,560
soccer fan or

432
00:14:31,350 --> 00:14:29,040
okay yeah so if someone and i'm like a

433
00:14:34,389 --> 00:14:31,360
manchester united fan so it's someone

434
00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:34,399
who's my sister obviously okay cool

435
00:14:37,430 --> 00:14:36,320
so if someone was coming out if someone

436
00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:37,440
was coming out and saying that

437
00:14:41,590 --> 00:14:39,920
manchester united are crap or like

438
00:14:49,990 --> 00:14:41,600
cristiano ronaldo's crap and i'm gonna

439
00:14:53,430 --> 00:14:51,430
for sure um

440
00:14:55,269 --> 00:14:53,440
but but at the same time i think it's

441
00:14:57,670 --> 00:14:55,279
important to

442
00:15:00,550 --> 00:14:57,680
not remain on the fence but kind of

443
00:15:03,189 --> 00:15:00,560
be open to new ideas too and and realize

444
00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:03,199
that it's like a fluid um situation

445
00:15:06,949 --> 00:15:05,199
really things can change really quickly

446
00:15:08,629 --> 00:15:06,959
in like the ufo world so it's important

447
00:15:11,350 --> 00:15:08,639
to true important to remember that

448
00:15:13,110 --> 00:15:11,360
things can change as well so

449
00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:13,120
what about what about yourself artisan

450
00:15:16,790 --> 00:15:14,959
by the way we many are saying they love

451
00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:16,800
your new tattoos

452
00:15:21,590 --> 00:15:19,680
uh everybody's very excited

453
00:15:23,829 --> 00:15:21,600
i also got the peach here

454
00:15:25,430 --> 00:15:23,839
oh look at that oh well we know that

455
00:15:27,269 --> 00:15:25,440
that one time was about aliens they're

456
00:15:29,910 --> 00:15:27,279
all about sharing the peaches oh yeah

457
00:15:31,110 --> 00:15:29,920
it's only one no it it's obviously just

458
00:15:33,509 --> 00:15:31,120
for them

459
00:15:35,749 --> 00:15:33,519
no i got it there's another meaning

460
00:15:37,749 --> 00:15:35,759
behind it

461
00:15:40,470 --> 00:15:37,759
i'm sure they will love it

462
00:15:42,629 --> 00:15:40,480
um but what about yourself then artemis

463
00:15:44,069 --> 00:15:42,639
and what is your position on this and

464
00:15:46,150 --> 00:15:44,079
then we're going to dig in a little bit

465
00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:46,160
to i guess let's start with this before

466
00:15:49,350 --> 00:15:48,000
we go with the question

467
00:15:52,230 --> 00:15:49,360
what was your introduction to this

468
00:15:54,790 --> 00:15:52,240
community let's start there i guess

469
00:15:57,110 --> 00:15:54,800
uh into this community like i did i

470
00:15:58,710 --> 00:15:57,120
wasn't always part of ufo twitter like i

471
00:16:03,430 --> 00:15:58,720
was

472
00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,440
long time before actually

473
00:16:06,629 --> 00:16:04,800
um

474
00:16:09,509 --> 00:16:06,639
following people and

475
00:16:12,470 --> 00:16:09,519
and like interacting with people online

476
00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:12,480
i thought i i was more just like reading

477
00:16:17,030 --> 00:16:14,800
everything going on on twitter but not

478
00:16:19,430 --> 00:16:17,040
participating in anything for a while

479
00:16:21,269 --> 00:16:19,440
that was mostly like

480
00:16:22,550 --> 00:16:21,279
just because of like my own confidence

481
00:16:23,990 --> 00:16:22,560
and not

482
00:16:26,150 --> 00:16:24,000
thinking

483
00:16:29,189 --> 00:16:26,160
i don't know i i just yeah it was mostly

484
00:16:31,990 --> 00:16:29,199
a confidence thing but um

485
00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:32,000
i don't know my introduction was like

486
00:16:37,269 --> 00:16:34,160
since like childhood with like movies

487
00:16:39,910 --> 00:16:37,279
and that's why but pop culture because

488
00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:39,920
like it they it has such a big influence

489
00:16:43,509 --> 00:16:41,040
and like

490
00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:43,519
when i i don't even know how young i was

491
00:16:46,310 --> 00:16:45,360
but i started watching star trek with my

492
00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:46,320
dad

493
00:16:51,670 --> 00:16:48,560
okay you know at a really young age like

494
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six maybe i don't even six seven

495
00:16:53,590 --> 00:16:52,720
whatever

496
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and

497
00:16:57,269 --> 00:16:55,759
i was always like i have an older sister

498
00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:57,279
and i was definitely like the nerdy

499
00:17:01,269 --> 00:16:59,120
sister and she was

500
00:17:04,549 --> 00:17:01,279
more of the girly sister so

501
00:17:07,510 --> 00:17:04,559
i was just always into that and um

502
00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:07,520
yeah i just kind of i don't know i and

503
00:17:11,429 --> 00:17:08,880
my thoughts were just always that we

504
00:17:13,750 --> 00:17:11,439
weren't alone but i just

505
00:17:16,309 --> 00:17:13,760
i don't know why i was i'm so sure of

506
00:17:18,230 --> 00:17:16,319
that i just kind of thought

507
00:17:20,069 --> 00:17:18,240
and i don't know in this vast like

508
00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:20,079
universe how could we really think that

509
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:22,400
we're the only ones so to me it's just

510
00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:23,360
more

511
00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:28,000
but anyway um

512
00:17:31,110 --> 00:17:30,320
yeah and when i started watching ucr

513
00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:31,120
about

514
00:17:35,270 --> 00:17:33,360
like a year and a half or something ago

515
00:17:37,190 --> 00:17:35,280
yeah or how long ago now

516
00:17:39,990 --> 00:17:37,200
um

517
00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:40,000
uh they eventually asked out if they

518
00:17:43,909 --> 00:17:42,000
hadn't if anybody wanted to help or

519
00:17:46,549 --> 00:17:43,919
anything behind the scenes

520
00:17:49,350 --> 00:17:46,559
and i didn't do that right away and then

521
00:17:50,710 --> 00:17:49,360
eventually in the summer i did

522
00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:50,720
and uh

523
00:17:54,470 --> 00:17:52,720
yeah there's the peaches

524
00:17:57,110 --> 00:17:54,480
um

525
00:17:58,870 --> 00:17:57,120
yeah the peaches for my mom but yeah

526
00:18:01,590 --> 00:17:58,880
and um

527
00:18:03,590 --> 00:18:01,600
yeah so i just put my hat and i was like

528
00:18:05,190 --> 00:18:03,600
all right i'll i'll help you know i have

529
00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:05,200
tons of customer service and sales

530
00:18:08,870 --> 00:18:06,640
experience and

531
00:18:12,150 --> 00:18:08,880
you know kind of wraps in with marketing

532
00:18:13,510 --> 00:18:12,160
and whatever and it certainly does um

533
00:18:14,950 --> 00:18:13,520
i just always talked about how we need

534
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,960
more women in the community and they

535
00:18:18,150 --> 00:18:16,799
said why don't you just

536
00:18:20,549 --> 00:18:18,160
be

537
00:18:21,990 --> 00:18:20,559
you know what you preach like i'm like

538
00:18:22,710 --> 00:18:22,000
more women on the show why don't we do

539
00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:22,720
more

540
00:18:26,390 --> 00:18:24,240
like why don't we have

541
00:18:27,510 --> 00:18:26,400
more women talking about it like a

542
00:18:28,630 --> 00:18:27,520
um

543
00:18:30,549 --> 00:18:28,640
we just give such a different

544
00:18:32,150 --> 00:18:30,559
perspective and it's it's such a good

545
00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:32,160
balance between

546
00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:33,360
um

547
00:18:36,710 --> 00:18:35,200
yeah just the way that we think versus

548
00:18:39,590 --> 00:18:36,720
how men think and

549
00:18:41,430 --> 00:18:39,600
um putting those ideas together and

550
00:18:43,350 --> 00:18:41,440
yeah just being more creative that way

551
00:18:45,270 --> 00:18:43,360
so um

552
00:18:47,270 --> 00:18:45,280
yeah my especially michael he really

553
00:18:49,669 --> 00:18:47,280
pushed me to do it and he was really

554
00:18:51,350 --> 00:18:49,679
supportive but me so was lou but yeah i

555
00:18:53,190 --> 00:18:51,360
know i remember like michael just being

556
00:18:55,190 --> 00:18:53,200
like just do it just do it why like

557
00:18:58,390 --> 00:18:55,200
you're thinking it too much like

558
00:19:00,150 --> 00:18:58,400
let's just go 400 go for it you have

559
00:19:01,190 --> 00:19:00,160
like you're natural in this blah blah

560
00:19:02,549 --> 00:19:01,200
blah

561
00:19:04,150 --> 00:19:02,559
so

562
00:19:06,390 --> 00:19:04,160
yeah eventually i did it and i was like

563
00:19:08,070 --> 00:19:06,400
oh my god i can't believe i'm doing this

564
00:19:10,230 --> 00:19:08,080
and uh

565
00:19:12,470 --> 00:19:10,240
yeah i didn't think i'd have my own show

566
00:19:13,350 --> 00:19:12,480
until i met josh and then i'm like

567
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:13,360
and then

568
00:19:16,710 --> 00:19:15,120
i kind of was thinking of it because

569
00:19:18,789 --> 00:19:16,720
everybody was like you should do a show

570
00:19:20,870 --> 00:19:18,799
and i'm like i guess i don't know if i

571
00:19:23,029 --> 00:19:20,880
could do it on my own and then when we

572
00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,039
met it kind of just all

573
00:19:27,029 --> 00:19:25,360
worked out rolled together

574
00:19:29,350 --> 00:19:27,039
well speaking of that before before we

575
00:19:30,630 --> 00:19:29,360
get to you then josh do you remember and

576
00:19:32,310 --> 00:19:30,640
again you don't have to discuss either

577
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:32,320
if you don't want to arguments but in

578
00:19:35,270 --> 00:19:34,000
your childhood i mean

579
00:19:36,310 --> 00:19:35,280
i always like to ask people you know was

580
00:19:37,669 --> 00:19:36,320
there anything that ever happened you

581
00:19:39,110 --> 00:19:37,679
just couldn't explain that you still

582
00:19:40,310 --> 00:19:39,120
think about to this day that makes you

583
00:19:42,870 --> 00:19:40,320
at least wonder even if you're not

584
00:19:49,110 --> 00:19:45,909
um for me not so much

585
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:53,190
weird childhood in other ways but um

586
00:19:57,430 --> 00:19:54,960
i don't know i because okay so i watched

587
00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:57,440
the movie scream really young like when

588
00:20:00,470 --> 00:19:59,120
it came out i think i was only three or

589
00:20:02,630 --> 00:20:00,480
four

590
00:20:05,029 --> 00:20:02,640
yeah watch it with my older cousin and

591
00:20:07,110 --> 00:20:05,039
like my sister's like six years older so

592
00:20:08,149 --> 00:20:07,120
she was quite a bit older to watch that

593
00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:08,159
movie

594
00:20:13,190 --> 00:20:10,400
and my cousin was even older than that

595
00:20:15,190 --> 00:20:13,200
and so that really scarred me

596
00:20:17,909 --> 00:20:15,200
for like a while like

597
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:17,919
it sounded silly but like for years like

598
00:20:22,710 --> 00:20:20,720
even at night looking through a window

599
00:20:24,310 --> 00:20:22,720
that's just uh reflected like a

600
00:20:26,390 --> 00:20:24,320
reflection of yourself because you can't

601
00:20:28,630 --> 00:20:26,400
see out like that would freak me out if

602
00:20:30,549 --> 00:20:28,640
i couldn't see outside like i would

603
00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:30,559
constantly think that i'm gonna like see

604
00:20:34,390 --> 00:20:32,960
something and whatever so i feel like i

605
00:20:35,830 --> 00:20:34,400
was just scared of everything and

606
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:35,840
anything but

607
00:20:39,909 --> 00:20:38,559
yeah i i didn't i don't have anything

608
00:20:46,149 --> 00:20:39,919
specific but

609
00:20:51,270 --> 00:20:48,230
i get scared at everything and like you

610
00:20:52,230 --> 00:20:51,280
know but that's what it is so the way it

611
00:20:54,390 --> 00:20:52,240
goes yeah

612
00:20:56,070 --> 00:20:54,400
okay so your introduction

613
00:20:58,390 --> 00:20:56,080
yeah but i mean i've had paranormal

614
00:21:00,710 --> 00:20:58,400
experiences um

615
00:21:02,950 --> 00:21:00,720
in the last like three years

616
00:21:04,390 --> 00:21:02,960
four years so like really

617
00:21:05,990 --> 00:21:04,400
so it has

618
00:21:07,830 --> 00:21:06,000
like i i do

619
00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:07,840
or i have experienced that as an adult

620
00:21:13,029 --> 00:21:11,039
but just yeah not as a child but i think

621
00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:13,039
my sister ruined that for me really

622
00:21:16,549 --> 00:21:14,480
because i just ended up being scared of

623
00:21:18,630 --> 00:21:16,559
everything but who knows if it was

624
00:21:20,149 --> 00:21:18,640
paranormal or not

625
00:21:22,549 --> 00:21:20,159
yeah yeah well

626
00:21:24,070 --> 00:21:22,559
you know it's it's interesting how

627
00:21:26,230 --> 00:21:24,080
different events or the things we're

628
00:21:28,070 --> 00:21:26,240
exposed to at such an early age just

629
00:21:31,029 --> 00:21:28,080
even concepts or ideas

630
00:21:32,870 --> 00:21:31,039
really do form you know the

631
00:21:34,310 --> 00:21:32,880
the person we come one day that we

632
00:21:35,669 --> 00:21:34,320
become i mean the good news is at least

633
00:21:38,470 --> 00:21:35,679
we can always alter that a little bit if

634
00:21:39,830 --> 00:21:38,480
we want one day but it is pretty amazing

635
00:21:41,110 --> 00:21:39,840
how we don't

636
00:21:42,470 --> 00:21:41,120
a lot of people some people have very

637
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:42,480
clear memories of their childhood and

638
00:21:46,310 --> 00:21:43,760
some people have a very like i don't

639
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:46,320
really remember yeah and for me that's

640
00:21:49,110 --> 00:21:47,520
weird i don't know about you guys but

641
00:21:50,789 --> 00:21:49,120
like when people say they don't remember

642
00:21:51,909 --> 00:21:50,799
their childhood

643
00:22:03,990 --> 00:21:51,919
i

644
00:22:06,470 --> 00:22:04,000
would be very strange

645
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,480
well it depends if like

646
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:08,159
what kind of childhood you've had and if

647
00:22:11,350 --> 00:22:09,760
you're suppressing memories themselves

648
00:22:13,510 --> 00:22:11,360
yeah if it's like trauma for example

649
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:13,520
people often suppress that so

650
00:22:16,390 --> 00:22:15,039
you know you just completely forget

651
00:22:17,909 --> 00:22:16,400
about it then years later something

652
00:22:20,470 --> 00:22:17,919
might trigger it again and it gets

653
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:20,480
brought up you know yeah very true i can

654
00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:22,400
say that like there's a lot of my

655
00:22:26,470 --> 00:22:24,240
childhood memories that i

656
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:26,480
don't remember but that's because i

657
00:22:30,149 --> 00:22:28,240
chose to suppress them and it's exactly

658
00:22:32,149 --> 00:22:30,159
for trauma so

659
00:22:33,669 --> 00:22:32,159
it is um

660
00:22:35,190 --> 00:22:33,679
it is weird though like i mean some

661
00:22:36,070 --> 00:22:35,200
people will

662
00:22:37,350 --> 00:22:36,080
um

663
00:22:40,630 --> 00:22:37,360
will remember

664
00:22:42,549 --> 00:22:40,640
a lot about their childhood and

665
00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,559
will remember events and everything so

666
00:22:47,350 --> 00:22:44,720
clearly while others like

667
00:22:49,510 --> 00:22:47,360
like myself i'm like i can hardly

668
00:22:50,950 --> 00:22:49,520
remember like a handful

669
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,960
of memories i guess if like you really

670
00:22:55,909 --> 00:22:52,799
try you can remember a little bit

671
00:22:57,590 --> 00:22:55,919
more but yeah it is interesting

672
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:57,600
that's true by the way that comment is

673
00:23:00,230 --> 00:22:58,720
true

674
00:23:01,750 --> 00:23:00,240
yeah so kathy splash pretty face

675
00:23:03,270 --> 00:23:01,760
listening on audio says i don't care how

676
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:03,280
many people say big willy works for the

677
00:23:08,390 --> 00:23:06,080
nasa or works for the nsa infiltrated

678
00:23:09,990 --> 00:23:08,400
the ufo paranormal community to psy up

679
00:23:11,669 --> 00:23:10,000
the world into another universe i will

680
00:23:14,789 --> 00:23:11,679
always love him

681
00:23:16,390 --> 00:23:14,799
that's definitely good

682
00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:16,400
um now what about yourselves in josh

683
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:17,840
let's start early childhood with you and

684
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:19,679
then kind of what was your introduction

685
00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:21,280
did any of your childhood experiences

686
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:23,840
lead into why you're in this community

687
00:23:29,830 --> 00:23:26,640
no i mean i i've never had like um

688
00:23:31,990 --> 00:23:29,840
a ufo experience but um but how how i

689
00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:32,000
got into this i like i was probably

690
00:23:36,870 --> 00:23:34,960
about eight eight or nine i was in um

691
00:23:38,149 --> 00:23:36,880
i was in grade school as you guys call

692
00:23:39,669 --> 00:23:38,159
it in like the states but i was probably

693
00:23:41,830 --> 00:23:39,679
about eight

694
00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:41,840
eight eight or nine years old and that

695
00:23:45,590 --> 00:23:43,760
we didn't have like a big it wasn't like

696
00:23:48,710 --> 00:23:45,600
a big school where i used to go to

697
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:48,720
school when when i was a kid so um we

698
00:23:52,070 --> 00:23:50,080
didn't we didn't even have like we

699
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:52,080
didn't even have have like a library

700
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:53,919
there so every wednesday i think it was

701
00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:56,400
we had like a mobile truck we used to

702
00:24:01,990 --> 00:23:59,279
come and that was the library um and it

703
00:24:02,290 --> 00:24:02,000
was from there that's where i discovered

704
00:24:03,510 --> 00:24:02,300
um

705
00:24:04,710 --> 00:24:03,520
[Music]

706
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:04,720
the

707
00:24:08,870 --> 00:24:06,640
topic really like i picked up a book

708
00:24:10,950 --> 00:24:08,880
which was just like a picture book

709
00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:10,960
um filled with pictures and drawings of

710
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:14,320
ufos no it wasn't it wasn't like writing

711
00:24:17,510 --> 00:24:15,919
and such it was just like describing the

712
00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:17,520
photograph for example

713
00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,640
um

714
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:20,640
and that kind of sparked the interest i

715
00:24:23,990 --> 00:24:22,159
had and from there

716
00:24:25,830 --> 00:24:24,000
like i just started to watch loads of tv

717
00:24:27,110 --> 00:24:25,840
shows like i got into the x-files in a

718
00:24:27,990 --> 00:24:27,120
really big way

719
00:24:29,590 --> 00:24:28,000
um

720
00:24:30,470 --> 00:24:29,600
and there was another show in the uk

721
00:24:33,830 --> 00:24:30,480
called

722
00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:33,840
encounters and that was a similar

723
00:24:37,430 --> 00:24:36,320
sort of show to like the twilight zone

724
00:24:38,789 --> 00:24:37,440
um

725
00:24:40,789 --> 00:24:38,799
and there was loads of shows like that i

726
00:24:43,430 --> 00:24:40,799
used to watch and then i got into like

727
00:24:45,510 --> 00:24:43,440
reading books like this is in the days

728
00:24:47,830 --> 00:24:45,520
of like the dial-up internet so i didn't

729
00:24:49,269 --> 00:24:47,840
really have access to like a computer

730
00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:49,279
where i could do loads of research so it

731
00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:50,400
was mainly

732
00:24:55,029 --> 00:24:52,720
just books what like i used to read or

733
00:24:56,789 --> 00:24:55,039
like if i found like a newspaper with

734
00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:56,799
like an article in there i'd read that

735
00:24:58,390 --> 00:24:57,520
but

736
00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:58,400
um

737
00:25:01,590 --> 00:25:00,400
it wasn't until i got into like my later

738
00:25:03,110 --> 00:25:01,600
teens where

739
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:03,120
i started to use the internet a lot more

740
00:25:06,470 --> 00:25:04,559
to research it and

741
00:25:09,110 --> 00:25:06,480
from there i was i was getting to people

742
00:25:11,590 --> 00:25:09,120
like stanton freedom and i watched like

743
00:25:13,430 --> 00:25:11,600
everything he did um yeah

744
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:13,440
him him and richard dolan were like the

745
00:25:16,950 --> 00:25:15,679
two main people growing up and then

746
00:25:18,310 --> 00:25:16,960
stephen

747
00:25:22,310 --> 00:25:18,320
um

748
00:25:24,470 --> 00:25:22,320
yeah like like he was a big one

749
00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:24,480
especially like the uh disclosure

750
00:25:28,870 --> 00:25:26,799
project stuff he did from in like 2001 i

751
00:25:31,350 --> 00:25:28,880
think it was that that was like a big

752
00:25:32,950 --> 00:25:31,360
one for me as well um

753
00:25:34,789 --> 00:25:32,960
yeah and then

754
00:25:36,789 --> 00:25:34,799
and then it kind of went quiet i went to

755
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:36,799
university and stuff and then

756
00:25:41,750 --> 00:25:39,200
after that i went i moved to china for

757
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:41,760
four years so i literally

758
00:25:45,830 --> 00:25:43,520
what was that experience like it was

759
00:25:47,590 --> 00:25:45,840
good yeah it was strange i was i was

760
00:25:49,830 --> 00:25:47,600
like a teacher over there for a bit i

761
00:25:52,630 --> 00:25:49,840
was teaching like young kids

762
00:25:54,470 --> 00:25:52,640
awesome so i so i had to kind of switch

763
00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:54,480
off the research and because it's so

764
00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,960
like censored there you can't really

765
00:26:00,390 --> 00:25:58,559
like google

766
00:26:01,590 --> 00:26:00,400
youtube facebook twitter that's all

767
00:26:02,789 --> 00:26:01,600
banned there so you couldn't really go

768
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:02,799
on anything

769
00:26:05,029 --> 00:26:03,919
um

770
00:26:06,870 --> 00:26:05,039
so that's that was interesting

771
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:06,880
experience then i came back to the uk

772
00:26:12,390 --> 00:26:08,960
when i was about 25

773
00:26:14,230 --> 00:26:12,400
and since then i've kind of just been

774
00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:14,240
researching it as much as i can so for

775
00:26:19,990 --> 00:26:18,080
the last like six or so years yeah

776
00:26:22,789 --> 00:26:20,000
so i was that was one of the curious

777
00:26:25,269 --> 00:26:22,799
things that i have is

778
00:26:26,789 --> 00:26:25,279
with that as far as because we all kind

779
00:26:27,909 --> 00:26:26,799
of share a similarity here as far as i i

780
00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:27,919
don't have any i'm sure there's some

781
00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:28,960
weird things that happen with you but i

782
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:30,880
don't have that moment right i'm not i

783
00:26:34,310 --> 00:26:32,480
don't consider myself abductee or

784
00:26:35,909 --> 00:26:34,320
anything like that where you know you

785
00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:35,919
have people can be like no this moment

786
00:26:38,390 --> 00:26:37,520
you know altered my perspective on

787
00:26:39,909 --> 00:26:38,400
everything

788
00:26:41,909 --> 00:26:39,919
i think it was always in the back of my

789
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:41,919
head but it was just that slow

790
00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,400
progressive fade and then i didn't know

791
00:26:49,029 --> 00:26:46,880
the ufo twitter was even a thing a year

792
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:49,039
and a half ago honestly even a year ago

793
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:50,640
yeah i didn't know that it was this

794
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:52,080
thing i didn't know there were people

795
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:53,520
hanging out and i think the internet's

796
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:54,720
really

797
00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:56,320
it's been a pro and a con right it's

798
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:58,240
gone two ways it's again kind of goes

799
00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:00,080
back to the idea of like the community

800
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,360
and as we're finding ourselves in

801
00:27:03,590 --> 00:27:02,640
developing

802
00:27:07,590 --> 00:27:03,600
and

803
00:27:09,510 --> 00:27:07,600
utilized properly can be an amazing tool

804
00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:09,520
like look at like you said that how long

805
00:27:13,269 --> 00:27:12,159
it took we're not that far removed from

806
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:13,279
like you were saying basically having to

807
00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,480
go to get a book at a library a

808
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:16,159
traveling library yeah to get

809
00:27:21,909 --> 00:27:19,679
information on this to now their entire

810
00:27:23,190 --> 00:27:21,919
shows by some of the more you know

811
00:27:25,029 --> 00:27:23,200
basically

812
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:25,039
foremost uh

813
00:27:29,430 --> 00:27:26,720
in the front line of study on this that

814
00:27:31,350 --> 00:27:29,440
we can listen to readily yeah you've got

815
00:27:32,549 --> 00:27:31,360
ross coolpad now he's got his own show

816
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:32,559
you know there's people like that who

817
00:27:36,710 --> 00:27:34,240
have got their own shows now talking

818
00:27:38,230 --> 00:27:36,720
about this it's it's um

819
00:27:40,789 --> 00:27:38,240
it's interesting

820
00:27:42,549 --> 00:27:40,799
yeah agreed i definitely agree with that

821
00:27:43,750 --> 00:27:42,559
i think one of the other cool things uh

822
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:43,760
and we'll definitely keep hitting on

823
00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:45,200
this a little bit here but one of the

824
00:27:48,870 --> 00:27:46,640
cool things you guys are doing with your

825
00:27:50,950 --> 00:27:48,880
show uh that you and now i believe you

826
00:27:52,310 --> 00:27:50,960
had done one episode maybe two i don't

827
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:52,320
think you've done two yet have you as

828
00:27:55,510 --> 00:27:53,679
far as kind of like the sit down and

829
00:27:56,549 --> 00:27:55,520
like let's try and bridge the gap which

830
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:56,559
i don't think people realize there's a

831
00:28:00,230 --> 00:27:58,080
lot of people behind episodes oh the

832
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,240
debate yeah yeah writing the debate

833
00:28:04,950 --> 00:28:02,399
episodes we haven't done one yet we

834
00:28:06,549 --> 00:28:04,960
thought you had one no we were taking

835
00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:06,559
suggestions for

836
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:07,679
um

837
00:28:11,510 --> 00:28:10,320
maybe the episode

838
00:28:12,950 --> 00:28:11,520
was there an episode or it kind of

839
00:28:14,789 --> 00:28:12,960
happened that way and it wasn't planned

840
00:28:17,990 --> 00:28:14,799
then is that what i'm thinking of i mean

841
00:28:21,269 --> 00:28:18,000
sometimes if there's too many mess

842
00:28:25,590 --> 00:28:21,279
honestly yeah but i'm sitting there like

843
00:28:29,590 --> 00:28:27,510
i remember one time like messaging alien

844
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,600
girls like are you free to come on the

845
00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,440
stream tonight and she's like no i can't

846
00:28:34,870 --> 00:28:33,520
i'm like

847
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:34,880
it was like super laughing and i was

848
00:28:38,789 --> 00:28:36,880
just like realizing how many men were

849
00:28:40,630 --> 00:28:38,799
going up yeah yeah

850
00:28:42,149 --> 00:28:40,640
but i mean no it's not a bad thing it's

851
00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:42,159
just sometimes though

852
00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:44,640
the conversation kind of does get a

853
00:28:49,669 --> 00:28:46,640
little bit more like

854
00:28:53,110 --> 00:28:49,679
not aggressive but a little bit but not

855
00:28:56,389 --> 00:28:54,230
yeah that's what i mean i'm like it's

856
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:56,399
not aggressiveness it's just like yeah a

857
00:29:01,029 --> 00:29:00,240
lot of a lot of the siege yeah so

858
00:29:01,990 --> 00:29:01,039
yeah

859
00:29:04,230 --> 00:29:02,000
but

860
00:29:06,549 --> 00:29:04,240
thinking of

861
00:29:08,070 --> 00:29:06,559
well i i thought it was uh and i could

862
00:29:10,070 --> 00:29:08,080
be wrong but i thought i thought it was

863
00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:10,080
an episode with goof on and then you're

864
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:11,840
wrong we had him on the show but that

865
00:29:15,350 --> 00:29:14,080
wasn't a debate but we did

866
00:29:17,510 --> 00:29:15,360
well we

867
00:29:18,470 --> 00:29:17,520
we like to do that we like to have

868
00:29:21,590 --> 00:29:18,480
because

869
00:29:23,190 --> 00:29:21,600
i mean to us before we even talk to him

870
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:23,200
you know we had people saying oh don't

871
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:24,880
get him on your show don't talk to this

872
00:29:29,510 --> 00:29:27,760
guy and to me it's like

873
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:29,520
no like i'd rather speak to someone and

874
00:29:33,590 --> 00:29:31,200
form my opinion after speaking to him

875
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:33,600
instead of having to base my opinions

876
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:34,399
off

877
00:29:38,389 --> 00:29:36,480
a third party if that makes sense you

878
00:29:40,310 --> 00:29:38,399
know i'd rather speak to them

879
00:29:42,149 --> 00:29:40,320
make up my own mind and and since

880
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:42,159
speaking to rich i mean

881
00:29:45,190 --> 00:29:43,520
we'll probably get some hate in the chat

882
00:29:47,430 --> 00:29:45,200
from this and whatever

883
00:29:49,909 --> 00:29:47,440
but i don't care because like you know

884
00:29:52,549 --> 00:29:49,919
um we spun him and he's a genuinely a

885
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:52,559
nice guy like i'm not yeah he is he's a

886
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:53,919
nice guy i'm so that's the thing oh

887
00:29:57,430 --> 00:29:55,520
you're muted

888
00:30:02,149 --> 00:29:57,440
oh sorry i was whispering i was yeah i'm

889
00:30:04,710 --> 00:30:03,190
but thank you for letting me know

890
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,720
because sometimes i do mute myself it

891
00:30:07,909 --> 00:30:06,080
definitely happens

892
00:30:09,110 --> 00:30:07,919
um but yeah i think it was with bottled

893
00:30:10,230 --> 00:30:09,120
water you're right which are we hanging

894
00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:10,240
out with bottled water tomorrow night

895
00:30:13,269 --> 00:30:11,440
guys by the way

896
00:30:14,070 --> 00:30:13,279
like yeah i guess they were but they

897
00:30:20,470 --> 00:30:14,080
like

898
00:30:22,630 --> 00:30:20,480
bottled water wants to have goof on on

899
00:30:24,630 --> 00:30:22,640
his show and and whatever i don't know

900
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:24,640
if that's because he's been on some show

901
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:26,559
i mean he's been he's been on amy's show

902
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,279
a few times um

903
00:30:33,430 --> 00:30:31,679
yeah he's been on our show so it's it's

904
00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,440
it's not like he's a

905
00:30:37,110 --> 00:30:35,120
straight because

906
00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:37,120
to me if there's like two sides of ufo

907
00:30:40,149 --> 00:30:38,559
twitter there's like

908
00:30:41,269 --> 00:30:40,159
there's there's like the goof on side

909
00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:41,279
and there's and then there's the other

910
00:30:46,389 --> 00:30:44,000
side and it's very rare that you see the

911
00:30:48,149 --> 00:30:46,399
two sides come together

912
00:30:51,110 --> 00:30:48,159
and so that's what we wanted to try and

913
00:30:52,710 --> 00:30:51,120
do is like bridge that gap because

914
00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:52,720
there's there's like a lot of people

915
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:55,120
which we've noticed who feel a bit um

916
00:30:59,269 --> 00:30:56,480
alienated i guess from like the

917
00:31:00,950 --> 00:30:59,279
conversation at times because their

918
00:31:03,029 --> 00:31:00,960
their their like opinions might be

919
00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:03,039
slightly different as to like what the

920
00:31:08,149 --> 00:31:05,360
mainstream viewers on ufo twitter and

921
00:31:10,070 --> 00:31:08,159
it's kind of difficult for people to

922
00:31:11,350 --> 00:31:10,080
express themselves sometimes

923
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:11,360
without feeling that they're going to be

924
00:31:13,830 --> 00:31:12,559
attacked by

925
00:31:16,310 --> 00:31:13,840
people on

926
00:31:18,070 --> 00:31:16,320
on on like twitter so

927
00:31:19,029 --> 00:31:18,080
that's true so that's what we wanted to

928
00:31:22,470 --> 00:31:19,039
do was

929
00:31:24,230 --> 00:31:22,480
um kind of be a show which

930
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:24,240
can kind of bridge that gap a little bit

931
00:31:27,990 --> 00:31:26,159
or even try to because that that's what

932
00:31:29,350 --> 00:31:28,000
we feel like we shouldn't be burning

933
00:31:30,230 --> 00:31:29,360
bridges we should be trying to build

934
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,240
them

935
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,720
and not um have it as two parts of you

936
00:31:37,909 --> 00:31:34,799
for two we should just be one voice

937
00:31:41,750 --> 00:31:37,919
really you know um

938
00:31:43,909 --> 00:31:41,760
or at least at very least right um

939
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:43,919
like appreciate whoops that i sure i

940
00:31:47,669 --> 00:31:44,960
might have showed the wrong thing here i

941
00:31:51,110 --> 00:31:47,679
think it's like stuck i don't know what

942
00:31:53,029 --> 00:31:51,120
happened there um so at very least

943
00:31:56,549 --> 00:31:53,039
be able to

944
00:31:59,269 --> 00:31:56,559
um recognize that um we all have

945
00:32:00,710 --> 00:31:59,279
different paths that we're on and if i

946
00:32:02,789 --> 00:32:00,720
don't just someone's in the bad someone

947
00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:02,799
has to be backstage messing with it ben

948
00:32:06,389 --> 00:32:04,399
are you back there because i swear it's

949
00:32:07,669 --> 00:32:06,399
just like automatically sharing stuff to

950
00:32:09,669 --> 00:32:07,679
the screen

951
00:32:12,310 --> 00:32:09,679
i don't know what that's about

952
00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:12,320
um see as soon as i do it it's gone this

953
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,840
is so weird i've never had this happen

954
00:32:17,190 --> 00:32:15,360
guys i apologize

955
00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:17,200
but anyways yes uh while it's up there

956
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:19,120
before we go any further uh guys guest

957
00:32:21,830 --> 00:32:20,640
links you can check this out i have both

958
00:32:23,909 --> 00:32:21,840
your twitter link as well as your

959
00:32:25,029 --> 00:32:23,919
youtube as well as your channel and

960
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:25,039
instagram

961
00:32:28,870 --> 00:32:26,559
i have that all in there and i did post

962
00:32:30,950 --> 00:32:28,880
it in the comments i'm not exactly sure

963
00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:30,960
why it's stuck on the screen i've never

964
00:32:36,230 --> 00:32:33,360
really had that issue before

965
00:32:37,509 --> 00:32:36,240
but everybody would do it

966
00:32:39,509 --> 00:32:37,519
yeah

967
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:39,519
ben says it's not him i see it watch

968
00:32:41,990 --> 00:32:40,880
this ben as soon as i get rid of yours

969
00:32:44,310 --> 00:32:42,000
i'm gonna see if it works so watch this

970
00:32:45,750 --> 00:32:44,320
i bet you wow look at that i've never

971
00:32:48,310 --> 00:32:45,760
had that she must be like a glitch or

972
00:32:49,590 --> 00:32:48,320
something that's okay maybe ben will hop

973
00:32:50,710 --> 00:32:49,600
in the back end and he'll fix something

974
00:32:52,070 --> 00:32:50,720
who knows

975
00:32:53,350 --> 00:32:52,080
for now i'll just share nice little

976
00:32:56,789 --> 00:32:53,360
comments that people share along the way

977
00:32:58,070 --> 00:32:56,799
and then we'll do the best we can um but

978
00:32:59,830 --> 00:32:58,080
the fact that i always explain it a

979
00:33:01,669 --> 00:32:59,840
little bit like this my perspective just

980
00:33:03,190 --> 00:33:01,679
my neatly on it is that

981
00:33:05,990 --> 00:33:03,200
is

982
00:33:07,350 --> 00:33:06,000
that we if we're like a body like your

983
00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:07,360
actual physical body and you have all

984
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:09,039
these pieces of your body that have

985
00:33:14,070 --> 00:33:11,440
certain functionality to them

986
00:33:15,430 --> 00:33:14,080
the the arms are not designed to be feet

987
00:33:17,350 --> 00:33:15,440
necessarily you know i know it's a bit

988
00:33:19,269 --> 00:33:17,360
redundant in your face and

989
00:33:21,110 --> 00:33:19,279
obviously i'm going for an extreme point

990
00:33:23,110 --> 00:33:21,120
of view here but your feet are not the

991
00:33:24,950 --> 00:33:23,120
eyes they don't serve that purpose

992
00:33:26,710 --> 00:33:24,960
but recognizing that you have a purpose

993
00:33:27,830 --> 00:33:26,720
for it and respecting one another's

994
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:27,840
purpose

995
00:33:31,430 --> 00:33:29,200
now again i'm not saying we have to

996
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:31,440
always support everything that other

997
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:32,880
people do but we don't have to go out of

998
00:33:36,870 --> 00:33:35,600
our way to tear each other down and okay

999
00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:36,880
i'm gonna get some hate on this one so

1000
00:33:39,830 --> 00:33:38,000
you guys said you're gonna get some hate

1001
00:33:41,830 --> 00:33:39,840
i'm gonna get some hate so ben hang on

1002
00:33:44,149 --> 00:33:41,840
your pajamas on this one

1003
00:33:45,430 --> 00:33:44,159
guys sometimes at the end of the day you

1004
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:45,440
know how we were talking about we barely

1005
00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:46,320
knew about some of the stuff that

1006
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,640
existed and we were in the community

1007
00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:50,320
nobody outside of this knows about it

1008
00:33:55,190 --> 00:33:53,440
yet exactly okay they don't know us

1009
00:33:57,029 --> 00:33:55,200
they don't you're root you're you're

1010
00:33:59,990 --> 00:33:57,039
cutting off relationships with people or

1011
00:34:01,509 --> 00:34:00,000
maybe ending things for for for what

1012
00:34:03,509 --> 00:34:01,519
yeah because we have a persona to

1013
00:34:05,190 --> 00:34:03,519
maintain who's the persona for if we're

1014
00:34:07,269 --> 00:34:05,200
the only ones that really care about it

1015
00:34:09,190 --> 00:34:07,279
and if people come into this this is

1016
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:09,200
what they're coming into so what kind of

1017
00:34:12,629 --> 00:34:10,560
community would you want to join and

1018
00:34:14,389 --> 00:34:12,639
that that is like my two cents on it i

1019
00:34:16,310 --> 00:34:14,399
know it's much easier said than done but

1020
00:34:17,349 --> 00:34:16,320
i do appreciate you guys doing one of

1021
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,359
the things you're doing which is sitting

1022
00:34:21,669 --> 00:34:19,919
down to have a difficult subject or a

1023
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,679
conversation and say hey

1024
00:34:25,349 --> 00:34:23,599
let's have a healthy debate let's talk

1025
00:34:26,069 --> 00:34:25,359
about it yeah that's all we want is just

1026
00:34:27,909 --> 00:34:26,079
to

1027
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:27,919
talk about things and you know we've got

1028
00:34:33,510 --> 00:34:31,119
louis lozando on the show soon um

1029
00:34:35,669 --> 00:34:33,520
which to us is weird because we wouldn't

1030
00:34:36,869 --> 00:34:35,679
we were not expecting to agree to come

1031
00:34:39,430 --> 00:34:36,879
on our show

1032
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:39,440
you know but he's he's gonna come on and

1033
00:34:42,790 --> 00:34:41,040
it's um

1034
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:42,800
you know we are gonna try and make it a

1035
00:34:47,270 --> 00:34:45,119
balanced um show because you know we do

1036
00:34:49,589 --> 00:34:47,280
um interact with different parts of the

1037
00:34:53,190 --> 00:34:49,599
community so we are going to try and

1038
00:34:55,669 --> 00:34:53,200
make it as balanced as we can you know

1039
00:34:57,670 --> 00:34:55,679
um true so it's going to be difficult to

1040
00:34:58,870 --> 00:34:57,680
do because you know we can't please

1041
00:35:00,150 --> 00:34:58,880
everybody but

1042
00:35:03,750 --> 00:35:00,160
you know we are going to try and make it

1043
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:03,760
as balanced as we can for sure yeah yeah

1044
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,560
do you guys think that uh

1045
00:35:09,270 --> 00:35:08,079
i suppose what's interesting about like

1046
00:35:10,550 --> 00:35:09,280
say the debate when you're challenged

1047
00:35:12,150 --> 00:35:10,560
when anybody challenges you on your

1048
00:35:14,310 --> 00:35:12,160
position

1049
00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:14,320
we're kind of this weird spot

1050
00:35:17,349 --> 00:35:15,440
where

1051
00:35:20,150 --> 00:35:17,359
there's been um a bit of a transition

1052
00:35:21,349 --> 00:35:20,160
over the past decade i suppose

1053
00:35:23,190 --> 00:35:21,359
i don't know how much for you guys but

1054
00:35:25,349 --> 00:35:23,200
like we had to write i mean for my age i

1055
00:35:26,630 --> 00:35:25,359
don't think we're all that far removed

1056
00:35:28,150 --> 00:35:26,640
from one another's age but within at

1057
00:35:32,230 --> 00:35:28,160
least got to be within at least 10 years

1058
00:35:33,589 --> 00:35:32,240
where if you run i'm i'm i'm 33. okay so

1059
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:33,599
we're good okay

1060
00:35:37,589 --> 00:35:36,079
okay so that's what i am i'm 32 or 30.

1061
00:35:39,990 --> 00:35:37,599
okay i'm 30.

1062
00:35:41,270 --> 00:35:40,000
yeah yeah and if you wrote an essay in

1063
00:35:41,990 --> 00:35:41,280
school back in the day when we had to do

1064
00:35:43,829 --> 00:35:42,000
that

1065
00:35:45,750 --> 00:35:43,839
if we were pressed or someone said why

1066
00:35:47,750 --> 00:35:45,760
did you come up with this decision you

1067
00:35:49,109 --> 00:35:47,760
had to defend that right not necessarily

1068
00:35:51,270 --> 00:35:49,119
they were attacking you but you had to

1069
00:35:53,190 --> 00:35:51,280
defend the position of why you came to

1070
00:35:55,030 --> 00:35:53,200
these understandings or these

1071
00:35:57,109 --> 00:35:55,040
this factual understanding as you as you

1072
00:35:59,750 --> 00:35:57,119
know it and it was okay as long as they

1073
00:36:01,109 --> 00:35:59,760
kept the maybe the uh i don't want to

1074
00:36:03,349 --> 00:36:01,119
use the word attack but as long as they

1075
00:36:05,430 --> 00:36:03,359
kept the debate or the questioning and

1076
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:05,440
the in regards to what the subject was

1077
00:36:09,109 --> 00:36:07,040
and not you not a personal tag there's a

1078
00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:09,119
fine line to walk there but

1079
00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:11,920
people have really blurred the lines on

1080
00:36:14,710 --> 00:36:12,720
we're

1081
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:14,720
somehow defending somebody questioning

1082
00:36:17,589 --> 00:36:16,000
why you believe what you believe is now

1083
00:36:18,870 --> 00:36:17,599
a personal attack and i understand that

1084
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:18,880
some people definitely do that so i'm

1085
00:36:22,390 --> 00:36:20,720
not supporting that but i think we got

1086
00:36:24,150 --> 00:36:22,400
to recognize that just because someone

1087
00:36:25,589 --> 00:36:24,160
asks a question

1088
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:25,599
doesn't mean it's a personal attack and

1089
00:36:28,790 --> 00:36:27,200
i do think there's in the right

1090
00:36:30,470 --> 00:36:28,800
environment

1091
00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,480
man a healthy discussion is the way

1092
00:36:34,630 --> 00:36:32,800
we've we've evolved over time being

1093
00:36:35,349 --> 00:36:34,640
challenged you know it's challenged us

1094
00:36:42,069 --> 00:36:35,359
to

1095
00:36:43,990 --> 00:36:42,079
conundrum right which is everybody says

1096
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:44,000
to grow to what disclosure well then

1097
00:36:47,510 --> 00:36:46,079
what is disclosure so for you guys would

1098
00:36:49,829 --> 00:36:47,520
it for josh and artemis what is

1099
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:49,839
disclosure for you guys in your world

1100
00:36:53,589 --> 00:36:51,920
it's a difficult question for me because

1101
00:36:55,349 --> 00:36:53,599
um

1102
00:36:56,310 --> 00:36:55,359
i don't even know how how to answer it

1103
00:36:57,589 --> 00:36:56,320
because

1104
00:36:59,670 --> 00:36:57,599
i mean there's there's people who have

1105
00:37:01,910 --> 00:36:59,680
said it's already it's already

1106
00:37:03,109 --> 00:37:01,920
you know yeah we we've already had it

1107
00:37:04,870 --> 00:37:03,119
you know and there's people who said we

1108
00:37:08,069 --> 00:37:04,880
haven't and you know you've had the

1109
00:37:10,550 --> 00:37:08,079
pentagon confirm that ufos are real so

1110
00:37:12,870 --> 00:37:10,560
no way they've kind of already done it

1111
00:37:14,710 --> 00:37:12,880
um true so

1112
00:37:16,390 --> 00:37:14,720
i mean to me

1113
00:37:18,390 --> 00:37:16,400
this

1114
00:37:20,069 --> 00:37:18,400
disclosure for me is like a mass event

1115
00:37:20,950 --> 00:37:20,079
where it's undeniable

1116
00:37:22,790 --> 00:37:20,960
and

1117
00:37:24,310 --> 00:37:22,800
there's no way that you can't say but

1118
00:37:27,030 --> 00:37:24,320
it's not

1119
00:37:29,109 --> 00:37:27,040
you know but this isn't a ufo like to me

1120
00:37:30,630 --> 00:37:29,119
it's not going to come from like

1121
00:37:32,790 --> 00:37:30,640
congress or something it's going to come

1122
00:37:34,069 --> 00:37:32,800
from like uapx or

1123
00:37:36,069 --> 00:37:34,079
it's like it's going to come from like

1124
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,079
the scientific community or like a mass

1125
00:37:40,069 --> 00:37:38,640
sort of site and that's how i see it

1126
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:40,079
yeah

1127
00:37:43,349 --> 00:37:41,920
i think it'll be i don't think it'll

1128
00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:43,359
just be one

1129
00:37:48,710 --> 00:37:46,400
well maybe a mass sighting but i think

1130
00:37:51,670 --> 00:37:48,720
i think it's just an accumulation really

1131
00:37:52,950 --> 00:37:51,680
of of the work that everybody's doing

1132
00:37:54,390 --> 00:37:52,960
and

1133
00:37:57,109 --> 00:37:54,400
um

1134
00:37:59,670 --> 00:37:57,119
eventually realizing we don't need

1135
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:59,680
the government's

1136
00:38:02,310 --> 00:38:00,640
stamp

1137
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:02,320
if

1138
00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:06,240
enough of us believe it anyway and

1139
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:07,359
i mean

1140
00:38:10,630 --> 00:38:08,880
people see proof

1141
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:10,640
themselves every day so i think those

1142
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,599
people who experience that themselves

1143
00:38:17,670 --> 00:38:15,359
also already have

1144
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,680
disclosure because

1145
00:38:21,030 --> 00:38:19,520
you know if you talk to an experiencer

1146
00:38:23,349 --> 00:38:21,040
they're very

1147
00:38:25,109 --> 00:38:23,359
you know they they've seen it they've

1148
00:38:27,030 --> 00:38:25,119
already seen it they've experienced it

1149
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:27,040
so to them

1150
00:38:29,990 --> 00:38:28,880
that you know that event was real and

1151
00:38:32,230 --> 00:38:30,000
that's

1152
00:38:33,030 --> 00:38:32,240
that is their disclosure for them it's

1153
00:38:35,030 --> 00:38:33,040
like

1154
00:38:37,190 --> 00:38:35,040
that's all the evidence that they needed

1155
00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,200
was their experience so

1156
00:38:40,950 --> 00:38:40,079
um maybe people having more experiences

1157
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,960
as well

1158
00:38:45,030 --> 00:38:42,960
through a mass sighting right

1159
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,040
now it'd be great if

1160
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:47,520
i keep saying phoenix lights 2022 come

1161
00:38:50,230 --> 00:38:49,200
on

1162
00:38:52,310 --> 00:38:50,240
let's get that

1163
00:38:53,750 --> 00:38:52,320
trending

1164
00:38:55,750 --> 00:38:53,760
for sure but i want that to happen in

1165
00:38:56,550 --> 00:38:55,760
toronto thanks

1166
00:38:58,310 --> 00:38:56,560
well

1167
00:39:00,150 --> 00:38:58,320
that would be very interesting

1168
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,160
a question here from the chat by the way

1169
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:02,480
uh for you josh is rental shim forest

1170
00:39:05,750 --> 00:39:04,880
the uk's version of roswell if not what

1171
00:39:07,589 --> 00:39:05,760
is

1172
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:07,599
oh keira angel welcome we got a new

1173
00:39:13,030 --> 00:39:09,520
member

1174
00:39:14,630 --> 00:39:13,040
um reynolds from forest is still

1175
00:39:16,630 --> 00:39:14,640
i mean you could say it's roswell

1176
00:39:17,670 --> 00:39:16,640
because it's still very much

1177
00:39:18,790 --> 00:39:17,680
myth

1178
00:39:19,589 --> 00:39:18,800
you know

1179
00:39:21,270 --> 00:39:19,599
it's

1180
00:39:23,109 --> 00:39:21,280
you know you had

1181
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,119
i mean it's an interesting like this is

1182
00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:25,200
probably one of the cases what got got

1183
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:26,960
me into the topic was rendering from the

1184
00:39:30,710 --> 00:39:29,680
uk um

1185
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:30,720
and

1186
00:39:36,950 --> 00:39:35,190
i mean i

1187
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:36,960
don't know what happened i would say

1188
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:38,000
it's

1189
00:39:42,710 --> 00:39:40,240
yeah i mean i i would agree about it

1190
00:39:46,069 --> 00:39:42,720
kind of is the uk's version roswell we

1191
00:39:47,510 --> 00:39:46,079
had the craft which landed um

1192
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:47,520
i mean

1193
00:39:51,910 --> 00:39:50,079
do you know the story um yeah that's the

1194
00:39:54,550 --> 00:39:51,920
that's a lighthouse out there that's all

1195
00:39:56,630 --> 00:39:54,560
that is that was that was the life

1196
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,640
i think that's the final conclusion on

1197
00:40:00,710 --> 00:39:58,640
it right as there was the lighthouse and

1198
00:40:01,750 --> 00:40:00,720
the vehicles on the road kind of which

1199
00:40:03,349 --> 00:40:01,760
yeah and

1200
00:40:05,270 --> 00:40:03,359
it could have been it could have been

1201
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:05,280
yeah and but the thing is about reynolds

1202
00:40:08,950 --> 00:40:07,119
well it's not just ufo activity this

1203
00:40:10,710 --> 00:40:08,960
paranormal um

1204
00:40:12,390 --> 00:40:10,720
as well so it's it's similar to

1205
00:40:13,910 --> 00:40:12,400
skinwalker ranch in some ways there's a

1206
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:13,920
lot of activity around there with

1207
00:40:17,589 --> 00:40:15,359
similar sort of

1208
00:40:19,589 --> 00:40:17,599
sightings of like wolf men and

1209
00:40:21,589 --> 00:40:19,599
things like that so there's a lot of

1210
00:40:23,670 --> 00:40:21,599
similarities there and i actually think

1211
00:40:24,550 --> 00:40:23,680
there's another documentary um coming

1212
00:40:28,230 --> 00:40:24,560
out

1213
00:40:30,230 --> 00:40:28,240
red mushroom forest when we had phillip

1214
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,240
mentioned on the show he was that'd be a

1215
00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:31,920
good one saying them he's like one of

1216
00:40:36,390 --> 00:40:34,160
these old school researchers from the uk

1217
00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:36,400
um i think he's part of the documentary

1218
00:40:38,470 --> 00:40:37,440
so there's going to be another one

1219
00:40:40,710 --> 00:40:38,480
coming out

1220
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,720
this year i think so keep so keep your

1221
00:40:44,309 --> 00:40:42,720
eyes peeled for that one but yeah it's

1222
00:40:46,309 --> 00:40:44,319
it's some an interesting case i can't

1223
00:40:48,550 --> 00:40:46,319
really say much about it because i

1224
00:40:51,750 --> 00:40:48,560
honestly don't know what what happened

1225
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:51,760
there uh i can respect that yeah and

1226
00:40:54,950 --> 00:40:53,359
that's what i mean i'd rather not

1227
00:40:56,710 --> 00:40:54,960
comment on it really because i i don't

1228
00:40:58,069 --> 00:40:56,720
really know what the finish what like

1229
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:58,079
the answer is because some people say

1230
00:41:01,829 --> 00:40:59,440
it's the lighthouse

1231
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:01,839
some people said it's not so i don't

1232
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:04,640
know i i need to see more proof again so

1233
00:41:07,670 --> 00:41:05,440
yeah

1234
00:41:08,950 --> 00:41:07,680
i mean i 100 respect that plus you look

1235
00:41:11,510 --> 00:41:08,960
at like what happened to him afterwards

1236
00:41:14,309 --> 00:41:11,520
and some of the downloads he got and

1237
00:41:15,910 --> 00:41:14,319
that was something that was falsified

1238
00:41:17,910 --> 00:41:15,920
hmm you know

1239
00:41:19,430 --> 00:41:17,920
uh gordim85 he said did i hear that

1240
00:41:21,030 --> 00:41:19,440
right at the joshua herman show

1241
00:41:23,349 --> 00:41:21,040
mentioned toronto i do believe that is

1242
00:41:25,750 --> 00:41:23,359
where he resides

1243
00:41:28,710 --> 00:41:25,760
that's where we are yeah so i i moved

1244
00:41:30,630 --> 00:41:28,720
here um in november

1245
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:30,640
um so i've been here for a few months

1246
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:32,480
now yeah i'm enjoying it apart from the

1247
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,280
snow yeah the snow snow is terrible like

1248
00:41:39,109 --> 00:41:37,280
it's but like we hate the snow too so i

1249
00:41:41,030 --> 00:41:39,119
mean you're kind of just a canadian now

1250
00:41:43,589 --> 00:41:41,040
yeah but it's just painting the snow is

1251
00:41:45,510 --> 00:41:43,599
being canadian yeah but like the snow

1252
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:45,520
here is crazy it's just it is it's

1253
00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:48,000
non-stop like just when it starts to get

1254
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:49,839
warm all of a sudden we look out the

1255
00:41:52,470 --> 00:41:51,599
morning after and it's snowing again

1256
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,480
yeah

1257
00:41:56,309 --> 00:41:54,319
yes

1258
00:41:57,510 --> 00:41:56,319
we got a little bit today i mean what is

1259
00:42:00,230 --> 00:41:57,520
what it is

1260
00:42:01,270 --> 00:42:00,240
it is i say that at a certain point once

1261
00:42:03,349 --> 00:42:01,280
you have much snow that's what we always

1262
00:42:05,750 --> 00:42:03,359
say we're like that is what it is

1263
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:05,760
i guess so we just like accept it

1264
00:42:11,109 --> 00:42:07,440
well he's from northern ontario that's

1265
00:42:13,190 --> 00:42:11,119
why accordion 85. oh nice nice very

1266
00:42:14,710 --> 00:42:13,200
northern ontario i'm curious

1267
00:42:16,550 --> 00:42:14,720
very nice maybe he's gonna say like

1268
00:42:17,829 --> 00:42:16,560
sudbury or something

1269
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:17,839
it's cold up there if you think it's

1270
00:42:21,670 --> 00:42:20,400
cold down here go to like even more

1271
00:42:24,150 --> 00:42:21,680
north like

1272
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:26,630
um not tobra mori it's another one with

1273
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:30,640
a t timid yeah timmins ontario it's it's

1274
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:33,359
um oh it's freezing there arden is in uh

1275
00:42:37,430 --> 00:42:35,040
arden paranormal she's also she said

1276
00:42:39,589 --> 00:42:37,440
she's in eastern ontario nice oh and

1277
00:42:46,450 --> 00:42:39,599
that's i think she's a new subscriber of

1278
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,870
[Laughter]

1279
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:50,319
too much information you have a good one

1280
00:42:53,349 --> 00:42:51,200
thank you for hanging out with us

1281
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:53,359
tonight be safe enjoy the weekend safely

1282
00:42:55,670 --> 00:42:54,720
and have a good one

1283
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:55,680
um

1284
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:57,119
so yeah and again guys like i said at

1285
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:58,640
the top of the hour here so in about 15

1286
00:43:00,950 --> 00:42:59,839
minutes we'll we'll take a quick little

1287
00:43:02,950 --> 00:43:00,960
break and we'll open it up for everybody

1288
00:43:04,069 --> 00:43:02,960
to jump in here i do apologize with why

1289
00:43:05,589 --> 00:43:04,079
it's gonna have that consistently out

1290
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:05,599
there i've never encountered that before

1291
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,280
for anybody who's watching visually

1292
00:43:12,150 --> 00:43:09,599
versus the audio format but we'll work

1293
00:43:13,910 --> 00:43:12,160
through it that's what we do um moving

1294
00:43:15,430 --> 00:43:13,920
along here i do have a question in

1295
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:15,440
regards to

1296
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:17,040
what do you think has been the most at

1297
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,560
least to date for and what service you

1298
00:43:22,069 --> 00:43:19,920
are to most honest what is the most

1299
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:22,079
fascinating thing to you personally

1300
00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:23,440
about either the community or the

1301
00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:25,200
phenomenon as a whole

1302
00:43:30,069 --> 00:43:27,599
and do you think they are intertwined i

1303
00:43:34,390 --> 00:43:31,750
um well

1304
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:34,400
the best thing about this community um

1305
00:43:40,390 --> 00:43:36,960
has been everybody that i've met really

1306
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:40,400
and finding my own place and i don't

1307
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,960
know that the amount that i've changed

1308
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:44,240
since

1309
00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:45,520
um

1310
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:50,160
is

1311
00:43:53,670 --> 00:43:52,079
you know insane i mean personally my

1312
00:43:55,510 --> 00:43:53,680
life has changed

1313
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:55,520
like whole 180

1314
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:56,480
and

1315
00:44:01,670 --> 00:43:59,280
you know even professionally like what i

1316
00:44:04,230 --> 00:44:01,680
you know do as a career like this is

1317
00:44:06,309 --> 00:44:04,240
what i'm trying to do this is what i'm

1318
00:44:10,470 --> 00:44:06,319
passionate about and this is what you

1319
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:10,480
know josh and i believe in so i think

1320
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,960
so much has um impacted me and the fact

1321
00:44:15,829 --> 00:44:14,160
that

1322
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:15,839
so many people

1323
00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:18,319
have this community in order to not feel

1324
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,480
alone in like their experiences or what

1325
00:44:25,910 --> 00:44:23,520
they believe in and this

1326
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:25,920
is like becomes a safe place for them

1327
00:44:29,030 --> 00:44:27,680
and that's for so many people or

1328
00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:29,040
everybody in this community i think

1329
00:44:32,069 --> 00:44:29,920
that's

1330
00:44:34,150 --> 00:44:32,079
definitely the most beautiful part you

1331
00:44:36,390 --> 00:44:34,160
know take away

1332
00:44:38,550 --> 00:44:36,400
the twitter hate and all that i think

1333
00:44:39,510 --> 00:44:38,560
in the bigger picture it brings us

1334
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:39,520
together

1335
00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:41,359
and the whole thing with this phenomenon

1336
00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:42,720
i mean

1337
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:44,319
it's really cool

1338
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:47,359
it's cool to think about it's

1339
00:44:50,550 --> 00:44:48,720
you know

1340
00:44:52,470 --> 00:44:50,560
the possibilities because we don't have

1341
00:44:53,349 --> 00:44:52,480
answers are really endless

1342
00:44:54,230 --> 00:44:53,359
and

1343
00:44:55,750 --> 00:44:54,240
you know

1344
00:44:56,790 --> 00:44:55,760
there could be

1345
00:45:00,870 --> 00:44:56,800
oh

1346
00:45:02,630 --> 00:45:00,880
apologize i just saved my heater i'm

1347
00:45:06,870 --> 00:45:02,640
down in the basement

1348
00:45:12,069 --> 00:45:09,990
no it's cool um

1349
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:12,079
yeah i think with this phenomenon it's

1350
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,760
like the possibilities are endless as to

1351
00:45:16,829 --> 00:45:14,880
what

1352
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:16,839
you know is out there

1353
00:45:21,829 --> 00:45:20,560
what what we're capable of what you know

1354
00:45:23,589 --> 00:45:21,839
are

1355
00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,599
yeah we're still discovering so much

1356
00:45:27,349 --> 00:45:25,200
about our history

1357
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:27,359
let alone um

1358
00:45:32,950 --> 00:45:30,720
our future and what else is out there so

1359
00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:32,960
i think that it's just really exciting

1360
00:45:37,910 --> 00:45:35,200
to still be discovering that and

1361
00:45:40,230 --> 00:45:37,920
really cool time to be alive because

1362
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:40,240
we're we've seen so much

1363
00:45:47,109 --> 00:45:44,319
um evolution even in our technology so

1364
00:45:49,109 --> 00:45:47,119
we really have so we really have

1365
00:45:51,030 --> 00:45:49,119
especially with technology so it's it's

1366
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:51,040
been yeah it's really cool there's a lot

1367
00:45:56,150 --> 00:45:53,200
going on there's a lot of positive to

1368
00:45:57,510 --> 00:45:56,160
focus on yeah greed

1369
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:57,520
what about yourself josh kind of the

1370
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,800
same question what do you what do you

1371
00:46:01,990 --> 00:46:00,640
think is uh the most fascinating thing

1372
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,000
for you

1373
00:46:06,150 --> 00:46:04,000
um

1374
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,160
i i would just say the amount of

1375
00:46:10,230 --> 00:46:08,160
people who were getting involved um i

1376
00:46:11,589 --> 00:46:10,240
mean very true i was like you i was

1377
00:46:13,589 --> 00:46:11,599
really surprised to see that there

1378
00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:13,599
actually was a ufo twitter like i didn't

1379
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:14,960
have anything i didn't know anything

1380
00:46:19,750 --> 00:46:16,880
about it um

1381
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:19,760
and it was when i created like my my

1382
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,520
instagram page and then i created the

1383
00:46:24,870 --> 00:46:22,720
twitter page

1384
00:46:26,550 --> 00:46:24,880
in like the summer last year

1385
00:46:28,309 --> 00:46:26,560
like i didn't have any idea there was

1386
00:46:29,990 --> 00:46:28,319
this whole community here like like

1387
00:46:31,670 --> 00:46:30,000
talking about this so that that's kind

1388
00:46:33,670 --> 00:46:31,680
of like the most amazing thing to me is

1389
00:46:35,349 --> 00:46:33,680
like how many how many people are

1390
00:46:37,190 --> 00:46:35,359
actually trying to get involved with

1391
00:46:38,790 --> 00:46:37,200
this and make a difference and

1392
00:46:40,950 --> 00:46:38,800
um

1393
00:46:43,190 --> 00:46:40,960
just just trying just trying to

1394
00:46:44,790 --> 00:46:43,200
just just trying to get involved and

1395
00:46:46,950 --> 00:46:44,800
i think for a lot of people as well it's

1396
00:46:48,630 --> 00:46:46,960
a social thing as well and especially

1397
00:46:51,190 --> 00:46:48,640
like the pandemics have happened and

1398
00:46:53,030 --> 00:46:51,200
people have been forced to

1399
00:46:55,990 --> 00:46:53,040
kind of like rethink themselves

1400
00:46:58,390 --> 00:46:56,000
re-evaluate stuff i mean i had to but

1401
00:47:00,470 --> 00:46:58,400
but before i did all this my

1402
00:47:01,670 --> 00:47:00,480
job i was like um

1403
00:47:03,430 --> 00:47:01,680
i guess you could call like a club

1404
00:47:05,349 --> 00:47:03,440
promoter like a nightclub promoter sort

1405
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:05,359
of thing okay and um

1406
00:47:08,309 --> 00:47:06,079
and

1407
00:47:10,710 --> 00:47:08,319
after cove it happened you know all the

1408
00:47:12,150 --> 00:47:10,720
nightclubs and bars were kind of shut

1409
00:47:15,030 --> 00:47:12,160
down i had to

1410
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,040
rethink what what i wanted to do so

1411
00:47:19,190 --> 00:47:17,440
that's when i decided to you know i i've

1412
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:19,200
always had a big interest in ufo so i

1413
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,839
thought right i'll just talk about it on

1414
00:47:25,670 --> 00:47:24,000
online you know and it's kind of

1415
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:25,680
snowballed from there so it's kind of

1416
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:28,720
cool to see how many people have

1417
00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,119
who you know just all these amazing

1418
00:47:34,470 --> 00:47:32,880
people who who are like involved with

1419
00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,480
that the conversation i think that's the

1420
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,160
best part of it for me

1421
00:47:39,510 --> 00:47:38,559
i do enjoy it i do enjoy

1422
00:47:41,910 --> 00:47:39,520
because

1423
00:47:42,950 --> 00:47:41,920
well and this is okay you know we hit on

1424
00:47:44,950 --> 00:47:42,960
something earlier we didn't quite

1425
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:44,960
clarify i think weeble probably agreed

1426
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:47,040
but maybe we didn't i didn't specify it

1427
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:48,800
at least we came really close earlier

1428
00:47:51,349 --> 00:47:49,920
and we should have clarified a little

1429
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:51,359
more about the idea between a personal

1430
00:47:55,589 --> 00:47:53,359
truth and then like what is it universal

1431
00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:55,599
or just it is the truth right and i

1432
00:48:00,069 --> 00:47:57,200
think within this community that happens

1433
00:48:02,150 --> 00:48:00,079
a lot right where

1434
00:48:05,510 --> 00:48:02,160
let's say an experiencer

1435
00:48:07,910 --> 00:48:05,520
they have something that's beyond a

1436
00:48:09,510 --> 00:48:07,920
for them it is a universal truth but i

1437
00:48:11,190 --> 00:48:09,520
understand that from the perspective of

1438
00:48:13,510 --> 00:48:11,200
others it can be considered just a a

1439
00:48:15,030 --> 00:48:13,520
personal truth right

1440
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:15,040
yeah now

1441
00:48:18,950 --> 00:48:16,880
that's a very hard thing

1442
00:48:20,230 --> 00:48:18,960
if you're someone who's dealt with that

1443
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:20,240
to have something to go well that's your

1444
00:48:23,910 --> 00:48:22,400
personal truth you know because well

1445
00:48:25,990 --> 00:48:23,920
they've lived it i mean that's that's an

1446
00:48:28,870 --> 00:48:26,000
entirely different perspective they have

1447
00:48:30,150 --> 00:48:28,880
in life and i think that is where like

1448
00:48:31,589 --> 00:48:30,160
anything in life we run into a lot of

1449
00:48:34,150 --> 00:48:31,599
issues is that

1450
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,160
recognizing what is the truth for me

1451
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:36,000
where i'm at my journey

1452
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,359
versus where somebody else is at and

1453
00:48:42,069 --> 00:48:39,359
their experiences they've had you know

1454
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:42,079
we have such a limited view

1455
00:48:45,829 --> 00:48:44,000
on what we perceive and experience in

1456
00:48:47,510 --> 00:48:45,839
life and i think maybe if we were more

1457
00:48:49,990 --> 00:48:47,520
open to that idea of if there is some

1458
00:48:52,390 --> 00:48:50,000
sort of and i tend to think there is a a

1459
00:48:55,109 --> 00:48:52,400
universal consciousness of some sort

1460
00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,119
that in an extent or in it in essence

1461
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:56,640
what others are experiencing is an

1462
00:49:01,430 --> 00:49:00,000
experience of yours too you know so i i

1463
00:49:02,870 --> 00:49:01,440
don't always

1464
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:02,880
even if i'm skeptical of something i

1465
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:04,240
have questions

1466
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:06,720
i very rarely just completely discredit

1467
00:49:09,589 --> 00:49:07,920
somebody

1468
00:49:11,750 --> 00:49:09,599
unless i can tell they're just purposely

1469
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,760
yanking my chain and then i just will

1470
00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:13,599
have fun with it more than anything i'm

1471
00:49:19,270 --> 00:49:15,920
gonna try to fight with them um before

1472
00:49:21,910 --> 00:49:19,280
it slips by too far back in the chat uh

1473
00:49:23,910 --> 00:49:21,920
let's see gamer x chris chris has a

1474
00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:23,920
question is there going to be any new

1475
00:49:28,829 --> 00:49:25,920
ufo disclosure happening and will we

1476
00:49:31,750 --> 00:49:28,839
know about how this off-world vehicles

1477
00:49:32,549 --> 00:49:31,760
work hmm either of you have opinions on

1478
00:49:35,670 --> 00:49:32,559
that

1479
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:35,680
well my opinion is i hope so um i hope

1480
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:37,520
we are going to get um

1481
00:49:42,309 --> 00:49:40,319
you know some some sort of answers soon

1482
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:42,319
but you know i think with the war i mean

1483
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:44,000
we we talked about this on our show

1484
00:49:48,309 --> 00:49:45,920
before where we came on your show

1485
00:49:49,829 --> 00:49:48,319
tonight and yeah we we all agreed on the

1486
00:49:51,270 --> 00:49:49,839
show that you know we think the war i

1487
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:51,280
mean that that's going to put this

1488
00:49:54,150 --> 00:49:53,040
conversation back even further i mean

1489
00:49:55,750 --> 00:49:54,160
the people who

1490
00:49:58,230 --> 00:49:55,760
who were trying to engage in this the

1491
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:58,240
congressman people like that they're

1492
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:01,280
going to be preoccupied now with

1493
00:50:05,430 --> 00:50:03,760
ufo subjects kind of like right at the

1494
00:50:08,230 --> 00:50:05,440
right at the end of

1495
00:50:10,230 --> 00:50:08,240
of their to-do list now really so i'm

1496
00:50:12,950 --> 00:50:10,240
i'm not sure what's going to happen

1497
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,960
with the conversation for this year um

1498
00:50:17,349 --> 00:50:14,319
i mean i do know we're going to get

1499
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:17,359
those that report on the 31st of october

1500
00:50:22,630 --> 00:50:20,640
yes or so i'm looking forward to that

1501
00:50:24,069 --> 00:50:22,640
um yeah so i think it's just going to be

1502
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:24,079
a waiting game

1503
00:50:27,270 --> 00:50:25,520
until that report comes out really i

1504
00:50:29,829 --> 00:50:27,280
can't see anything

1505
00:50:31,190 --> 00:50:29,839
much changing before then if that makes

1506
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:31,200
sense i think but probably might we

1507
00:50:35,349 --> 00:50:33,920
might get some leaked information maybe

1508
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:35,359
um

1509
00:50:38,870 --> 00:50:37,359
but in terms of anything official from

1510
00:50:39,990 --> 00:50:38,880
the government for example i think we're

1511
00:50:41,430 --> 00:50:40,000
just going to have to wait for that

1512
00:50:44,790 --> 00:50:41,440
report to come out

1513
00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:44,800
agreed yeah which you know i think it

1514
00:50:47,589 --> 00:50:46,400
let's talk about that for just a second

1515
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,599
and we have another great question here

1516
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:49,119
from justin and like i said you guys put

1517
00:50:51,109 --> 00:50:50,319
any of the questions in there that you'd

1518
00:50:52,950 --> 00:50:51,119
like

1519
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,960
but you know in regards to that that's

1520
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:54,079
really going to be on us as the

1521
00:50:59,910 --> 00:50:57,440
community to uphold and and kind of keep

1522
00:51:01,109 --> 00:50:59,920
the flame alive as it were and let's

1523
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,119
face it

1524
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,960
we're at really exciting time in some

1525
00:51:05,829 --> 00:51:04,559
ways when it comes to this topic i mean

1526
00:51:07,750 --> 00:51:05,839
i suppose every day we wake up we're

1527
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,760
always at the forefront of being closer

1528
00:51:10,470 --> 00:51:09,440
than we've ever been to it i suppose in

1529
00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:10,480
some ways

1530
00:51:12,710 --> 00:51:11,839
even though there have been some steps

1531
00:51:14,549 --> 00:51:12,720
you know throughout history they've

1532
00:51:16,710 --> 00:51:14,559
shown we certainly took steps backwards

1533
00:51:18,870 --> 00:51:16,720
or suppressed it um

1534
00:51:19,990 --> 00:51:18,880
if individuals within

1535
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:20,000
the community that have come out and

1536
00:51:23,829 --> 00:51:22,079
spoke out that were in the government

1537
00:51:25,109 --> 00:51:23,839
are to be believed and there's some very

1538
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:25,119
big things on

1539
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:26,480
the horizon

1540
00:51:30,069 --> 00:51:28,400
and i think it is it's probably more

1541
00:51:31,349 --> 00:51:30,079
important now than ever that how i

1542
00:51:32,630 --> 00:51:31,359
mentioned earlier how people don't know

1543
00:51:34,069 --> 00:51:32,640
who we are

1544
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,079
there's going to be more and more people

1545
00:51:38,150 --> 00:51:36,640
turning to this because it is

1546
00:51:39,190 --> 00:51:38,160
you know going into the government

1547
00:51:41,109 --> 00:51:39,200
aspect where people are starting to hear

1548
00:51:43,030 --> 00:51:41,119
it talked on the you know their nightly

1549
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:43,040
news may not be our favorite thing to

1550
00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:44,880
see it in the mainstream media and the

1551
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:46,960
light that is being portrayed but

1552
00:51:49,750 --> 00:51:48,559
it's it's enough to get people intrigued

1553
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:49,760
and they're going to come find things

1554
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:51,440
like kibofo together

1555
00:51:54,870 --> 00:51:53,599
and i think that's where you you touched

1556
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:54,880
on that big willie but what's your

1557
00:51:59,910 --> 00:51:57,359
opinion on like how it's portrayed in in

1558
00:52:00,790 --> 00:51:59,920
in like the media if that makes sense

1559
00:52:02,470 --> 00:52:00,800
well

1560
00:52:04,150 --> 00:52:02,480
you know i have a whole different

1561
00:52:07,190 --> 00:52:04,160
relationship with mainstream media

1562
00:52:08,549 --> 00:52:07,200
personally anyways um i i

1563
00:52:09,670 --> 00:52:08,559
always and people probably hear me

1564
00:52:11,670 --> 00:52:09,680
saying this i always say that my

1565
00:52:13,349 --> 00:52:11,680
perspective of mainstream media

1566
00:52:15,270 --> 00:52:13,359
is that if you walked into a room a

1567
00:52:16,470 --> 00:52:15,280
skyscraper and you had like eight

1568
00:52:18,230 --> 00:52:16,480
different windows you could look out

1569
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:18,240
different ways you could look and you

1570
00:52:21,030 --> 00:52:19,680
say i'm going to look this way because i

1571
00:52:22,069 --> 00:52:21,040
can watch the sunset or i want to look

1572
00:52:23,510 --> 00:52:22,079
this way because i want the sun in my

1573
00:52:25,270 --> 00:52:23,520
eyes and you think you're making these

1574
00:52:26,549 --> 00:52:25,280
choices what the lenses are the view

1575
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:26,559
you're going to look at

1576
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,319
but you know behind the scenes as well

1577
00:52:32,549 --> 00:52:30,319
somebody pick the room with the views

1578
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,559
you're already looking at yeah and if

1579
00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,400
you listen to the and i'll put it in

1580
00:52:37,589 --> 00:52:36,160
massive quotation marks for anybody

1581
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:37,599
who's just listing an audio version it's

1582
00:52:41,510 --> 00:52:38,800
massive

1583
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:41,520
the news that's reported anymore are

1584
00:52:44,309 --> 00:52:43,040
just simply opinion pieces and it

1585
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,319
doesn't matter which side of spectrum

1586
00:52:49,109 --> 00:52:46,880
you fall on you listen to it it's just

1587
00:52:51,270 --> 00:52:49,119
them attacking whichever opposing side

1588
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,280
whoever is against them it's all rating

1589
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:53,760
based it's not really reporting the news

1590
00:52:57,510 --> 00:52:54,880
anymore

1591
00:52:59,430 --> 00:52:57,520
and so i've always had that perception

1592
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:59,440
even before getting into this now with

1593
00:53:03,270 --> 00:53:01,440
in regards to the ufo community or the

1594
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:03,280
the phenomenon as a whole you hear the

1595
00:53:07,270 --> 00:53:05,119
word threat tossed on a lot it's always

1596
00:53:08,470 --> 00:53:07,280
a threat it's a threat narrative you

1597
00:53:09,670 --> 00:53:08,480
know how is this a threat to our

1598
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:09,680
airspace

1599
00:53:12,069 --> 00:53:11,040
and i get it for those that have served

1600
00:53:13,109 --> 00:53:12,079
in the military and stuff they're gonna

1601
00:53:14,230 --> 00:53:13,119
say well yeah things up there that we

1602
00:53:16,470 --> 00:53:14,240
don't understand are a threat to our

1603
00:53:18,470 --> 00:53:16,480
airspace and i get that but

1604
00:53:20,069 --> 00:53:18,480
i just hear the word threat usually

1605
00:53:21,829 --> 00:53:20,079
because it leads to fear and i believe

1606
00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:21,839
fear controls people

1607
00:53:25,349 --> 00:53:23,440
very clever i mean

1608
00:53:27,430 --> 00:53:25,359
the media are clever of what what they

1609
00:53:29,430 --> 00:53:27,440
say they know exactly what to say well

1610
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,440
or you know these people who know about

1611
00:53:32,870 --> 00:53:31,599
the ufc when they say it's a threat they

1612
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,880
know exactly

1613
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:35,359
what language to use how to

1614
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:37,920
get the point across how to get people

1615
00:53:43,030 --> 00:53:40,480
on their side things using the word

1616
00:53:43,829 --> 00:53:43,040
threat on the news is yeah

1617
00:53:46,069 --> 00:53:43,839
they

1618
00:53:47,670 --> 00:53:46,079
these sorts

1619
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:47,680
they use these words you know trigger

1620
00:53:49,750 --> 00:53:48,800
words yeah but we know what they're

1621
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:49,760
doing

1622
00:53:52,870 --> 00:53:50,960
um

1623
00:53:54,470 --> 00:53:52,880
which is why for me and you touched on

1624
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:54,480
there about the ratings as well that's

1625
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:55,280
why

1626
00:53:59,270 --> 00:53:56,480
when i see

1627
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:59,280
for example like fox news they they do a

1628
00:54:04,630 --> 00:54:01,680
lot of stuff on ufos now yeah whenever i

1629
00:54:06,309 --> 00:54:04,640
see fox news and ufos i kind of take it

1630
00:54:08,390 --> 00:54:06,319
of a pinch of salt because

1631
00:54:10,790 --> 00:54:08,400
i know that most of it is going to be

1632
00:54:12,390 --> 00:54:10,800
about ratings and and fox news though if

1633
00:54:14,870 --> 00:54:12,400
they put a story about ufos are going to

1634
00:54:16,710 --> 00:54:14,880
get loads of clicks loads of ratings and

1635
00:54:18,790 --> 00:54:16,720
i think most of the time that's what

1636
00:54:21,109 --> 00:54:18,800
these ufo stories are for

1637
00:54:23,430 --> 00:54:21,119
is to get clicks for these you know for

1638
00:54:24,470 --> 00:54:23,440
like the news people

1639
00:54:27,109 --> 00:54:24,480
very true

1640
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:27,119
a lot of the time i mean i mean some

1641
00:54:31,349 --> 00:54:29,200
sometimes you'll get a genuine story you

1642
00:54:33,030 --> 00:54:31,359
know but but most of the time it's just

1643
00:54:34,470 --> 00:54:33,040
rehashing the same information we've

1644
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:34,480
already had

1645
00:54:39,349 --> 00:54:36,480
so you know loads of times but just on a

1646
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:39,359
different station yeah you know and it's

1647
00:54:41,910 --> 00:54:40,880
there's nothing new there really it's

1648
00:54:46,630 --> 00:54:41,920
just

1649
00:54:47,910 --> 00:54:46,640
won't go down that route but joe and ben

1650
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:47,920
if you've been on this before you know

1651
00:54:51,349 --> 00:54:50,000
when you see the news in the morning

1652
00:54:55,030 --> 00:54:51,359
maybe the afternoon and the evening

1653
00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,040
right now it's 24 7 and they start every

1654
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:57,839
segment with breaking news yeah

1655
00:55:01,670 --> 00:54:59,760
is it really is it really making news

1656
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:01,680
between you know unless something indeed

1657
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:02,960
did happen

1658
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:04,319
but it usually didn't it's like breaking

1659
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:05,760
news here's our newest opinion for the

1660
00:55:09,190 --> 00:55:06,480
day

1661
00:55:10,789 --> 00:55:09,200
that you must now believe and align with

1662
00:55:12,309 --> 00:55:10,799
and uh there's a whole rabbit hole we

1663
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:12,319
could go down on that oh yeah but talk

1664
00:55:15,670 --> 00:55:13,760
about flowers

1665
00:55:17,349 --> 00:55:15,680
i know really quick with justin here so

1666
00:55:18,789 --> 00:55:17,359
don't forget yours as i fall back a

1667
00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:18,799
little bit there um

1668
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:20,400
he says right i believe it's more of a

1669
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,839
statement maybe than a question he says

1670
00:55:25,750 --> 00:55:23,760
it's the most profound question of all

1671
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:25,760
human experiences and people want to

1672
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:26,559
know

1673
00:55:32,309 --> 00:55:30,559
think that is for the two of you why do

1674
00:55:34,630 --> 00:55:32,319
you guys think that people have such a

1675
00:55:35,750 --> 00:55:34,640
desire to either a known that we were

1676
00:55:37,670 --> 00:55:35,760
not alone

1677
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,680
or the needs who know that we're not

1678
00:55:41,910 --> 00:55:39,280
alone and do you think that there's like

1679
00:55:43,750 --> 00:55:41,920
a love-hate relationship with that

1680
00:55:45,750 --> 00:55:43,760
it's a good question i mean

1681
00:55:48,710 --> 00:55:45,760
i think it comes back to like the

1682
00:55:50,470 --> 00:55:48,720
validation thing um as well i think it's

1683
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:50,480
just people want

1684
00:55:54,950 --> 00:55:52,799
what wanting to have have to have to

1685
00:55:56,150 --> 00:55:54,960
have that acceptance a lot of the time

1686
00:55:57,910 --> 00:55:56,160
um

1687
00:55:58,710 --> 00:55:57,920
that plays into it a lot of thing for me

1688
00:56:02,150 --> 00:55:58,720
but

1689
00:56:03,910 --> 00:56:02,160
you know there's people around the world

1690
00:56:05,990 --> 00:56:03,920
who have had a genuine experience i'm

1691
00:56:07,990 --> 00:56:06,000
sure and and

1692
00:56:10,470 --> 00:56:08,000
for them it must be frustrating i think

1693
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:10,480
to look at this topic sometimes and

1694
00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:11,359
you know

1695
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:13,920
they they must know that for a fact it's

1696
00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:15,200
real because they've seen one of these

1697
00:56:19,270 --> 00:56:17,440
things close up or whatever and

1698
00:56:20,710 --> 00:56:19,280
you know

1699
00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:20,720
it's a hard question big will you've

1700
00:56:24,390 --> 00:56:22,799
you've uh you've thrown me a big

1701
00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:24,400
curveball uh

1702
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:25,599
it's okay

1703
00:56:29,109 --> 00:56:27,680
listen but but this is a beautiful thing

1704
00:56:31,750 --> 00:56:29,119
about like the community as a whole is

1705
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,760
it sometimes like okay so like joe and i

1706
00:56:35,670 --> 00:56:34,079
and and ben like we and a lot of us

1707
00:56:36,870 --> 00:56:35,680
other ones too chad and sunny we do

1708
00:56:38,069 --> 00:56:36,880
these after shows and i'm sure you guys

1709
00:56:40,630 --> 00:56:38,079
have done them too where we hang out we

1710
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:40,640
just like and enzo my god enzo and i

1711
00:56:43,910 --> 00:56:41,680
have literally

1712
00:56:46,150 --> 00:56:43,920
like been up until the sun was up in the

1713
00:56:47,510 --> 00:56:46,160
i mean yeah he's such a smart guy i

1714
00:56:49,750 --> 00:56:47,520
remember one night i was just throwing

1715
00:56:51,910 --> 00:56:49,760
crazy stuff at him because he's so smart

1716
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:51,920
and i was like i'm not smart and i just

1717
00:56:55,430 --> 00:56:54,079
wanted to know it's like so the idea of

1718
00:56:57,030 --> 00:56:55,440
um

1719
00:56:58,230 --> 00:56:57,040
okay so they're

1720
00:57:00,150 --> 00:56:58,240
man now we're going down to the rabbit

1721
00:57:01,430 --> 00:57:00,160
hole connor's in here tonight speaking

1722
00:57:03,829 --> 00:57:01,440
of connor thank you for being here

1723
00:57:05,190 --> 00:57:03,839
tonight connor and obviously he's hit on

1724
00:57:06,549 --> 00:57:05,200
like we've chatted about flat earth and

1725
00:57:07,990 --> 00:57:06,559
stuff before

1726
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:08,000
and even though i don't subscribe

1727
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:09,920
necessarily to the idea i support the

1728
00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:12,960
idea of them being like questioning to a

1729
00:57:15,910 --> 00:57:14,240
point i think once you have an answer in

1730
00:57:17,510 --> 00:57:15,920
something then we either choose you

1731
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:17,520
either choosing to be willfully ignorant

1732
00:57:21,990 --> 00:57:20,240
or or you're ignoring facts so

1733
00:57:23,750 --> 00:57:22,000
to a point but i definitely support the

1734
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:23,760
idea of them not just accepting any

1735
00:57:26,710 --> 00:57:24,960
answers given to them they really want

1736
00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,720
to know why

1737
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:28,319
but one thing that has been interesting

1738
00:57:30,950 --> 00:57:29,680
and listening to some of that stuff and

1739
00:57:33,589 --> 00:57:30,960
talking to them is the idea of how they

1740
00:57:35,270 --> 00:57:33,599
talk about gravity and we still again

1741
00:57:37,109 --> 00:57:35,280
this gets way outside of the realm of

1742
00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:37,119
what i should be talking about but we

1743
00:57:41,750 --> 00:57:40,160
really don't understand gravity yeah and

1744
00:57:43,109 --> 00:57:41,760
there was a couple interesting things in

1745
00:57:44,789 --> 00:57:43,119
studies we put forward talking about the

1746
00:57:46,470 --> 00:57:44,799
relationship of uh

1747
00:57:47,349 --> 00:57:46,480
gravity being more like an electrical

1748
00:57:48,870 --> 00:57:47,359
force

1749
00:57:51,109 --> 00:57:48,880
that affects each

1750
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:51,119
one of us different based on our mass

1751
00:57:55,349 --> 00:57:52,319
and i thought that was interesting

1752
00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:55,359
because the way that pablo's are take

1753
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,880
him leave him love him or hate him

1754
00:58:02,470 --> 00:57:58,880
describe the way that it affected

1755
00:58:03,910 --> 00:58:02,480
gravity and pulled gravity to it

1756
00:58:06,710 --> 00:58:03,920
what almost led more credence to the

1757
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:06,720
idea of things being able to beam we

1758
00:58:12,309 --> 00:58:09,359
know we can make stuff levitate based on

1759
00:58:14,549 --> 00:58:12,319
frequency using electric current yeah

1760
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,559
like that's affecting gravity it's not

1761
00:58:18,230 --> 00:58:16,640
we're not doing anything magical there

1762
00:58:21,030 --> 00:58:18,240
you know it's just

1763
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,040
i sometimes think that some of that is

1764
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:23,520
intriguing to me so far is the idea what

1765
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:24,559
was the original question i feel like

1766
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:26,640
now i like completely blank i'm like

1767
00:58:34,230 --> 00:58:31,349
i was just so in trouble like you were

1768
00:58:35,589 --> 00:58:34,240
like saying i i don't oh i forgot i feel

1769
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:35,599
like you asked a question i was like

1770
00:58:38,549 --> 00:58:36,880
okay i'm starting to ramble so i'm going

1771
00:58:40,710 --> 00:58:38,559
to stop myself

1772
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:40,720
does anybody in the chat remember

1773
00:58:45,109 --> 00:58:42,640
honestly i'm just like yeah

1774
00:58:47,510 --> 00:58:45,119
i was living

1775
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:47,520
um well either way cymatics yes i'm

1776
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,640
addicts kyra thank you um there's a ton

1777
00:58:53,670 --> 00:58:52,559
of it to me that oh that's what i was

1778
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,680
saying

1779
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:55,520
bouncing those ideas off on one another

1780
00:58:58,549 --> 00:58:57,280
in the community and having someone who

1781
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:58,559
challenges you or has a different

1782
00:59:00,870 --> 00:58:59,920
mindset because i was saying how we vibe

1783
00:59:02,390 --> 00:59:00,880
and we hang out with all those different

1784
00:59:03,750 --> 00:59:02,400
people and it's great to have someone

1785
00:59:04,950 --> 00:59:03,760
you can always hang out with

1786
00:59:06,309 --> 00:59:04,960
that

1787
00:59:08,950 --> 00:59:06,319
you know maybe support some things the

1788
00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:08,960
same as you but it's also good i think

1789
00:59:12,390 --> 00:59:10,720
to sit and with people who don't have

1790
00:59:13,670 --> 00:59:12,400
this don't share the same opinion as you

1791
00:59:16,390 --> 00:59:13,680
and then to figure out where you fall in

1792
00:59:18,950 --> 00:59:16,400
that you know exactly and this is why

1793
00:59:20,549 --> 00:59:18,960
we wanted to get so many different we

1794
00:59:22,230 --> 00:59:20,559
want to have different people on the

1795
00:59:24,230 --> 00:59:22,240
show people with different viewpoints

1796
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:24,240
and because we want to be challenged too

1797
00:59:28,390 --> 00:59:26,319
like i want to be a challenge i want

1798
00:59:30,230 --> 00:59:28,400
someone to literally change my belief

1799
00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:30,240
system i want them to try to do it i

1800
00:59:33,990 --> 00:59:31,920
want them to like challenge me i want

1801
00:59:34,950 --> 00:59:34,000
them i want my belief system challenged

1802
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:34,960
because

1803
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:36,480
i want to learn

1804
00:59:42,470 --> 00:59:40,640
this topic and you know i'm and that's

1805
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:42,480
why i don't like to shut

1806
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:44,160
someone out because i could learn

1807
00:59:47,990 --> 00:59:45,760
something from this person you know it

1808
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:48,000
could just be one small thing and that

1809
00:59:51,670 --> 00:59:49,839
one small thing could change how i think

1810
00:59:54,230 --> 00:59:51,680
about something else so

1811
00:59:56,390 --> 00:59:54,240
very true yeah so i'd rather just speak

1812
00:59:57,910 --> 00:59:56,400
to everybody

1813
00:59:59,510 --> 00:59:57,920
used to bother me

1814
01:00:00,549 --> 00:59:59,520
and it's so weird to maybe we'll have to

1815
01:00:01,829 --> 01:00:00,559
come back to this after the top of the

1816
01:00:02,789 --> 01:00:01,839
hour here and we'll have we'll open up

1817
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:02,799
for everybody couple would like to come

1818
01:00:05,910 --> 01:00:04,240
in and hang out with us and talk with

1819
01:00:07,030 --> 01:00:05,920
josh and ornaments to come on in whoever

1820
01:00:08,950 --> 01:00:07,040
would like to i'll drop the link here in

1821
01:00:10,230 --> 01:00:08,960
just a minute but

1822
01:00:12,230 --> 01:00:10,240
one of the things that i thought was so

1823
01:00:14,069 --> 01:00:12,240
interesting it used to like

1824
01:00:15,829 --> 01:00:14,079
maybe even three three years ago i've

1825
01:00:17,270 --> 01:00:15,839
been like nope can't do it

1826
01:00:18,710 --> 01:00:17,280
was the whole

1827
01:00:20,470 --> 01:00:18,720
um

1828
01:00:21,750 --> 01:00:20,480
i don't know why but i think all my life

1829
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:21,760
just because of media and stuff i had

1830
01:00:26,150 --> 01:00:23,680
this perspective that there was like i

1831
01:00:28,630 --> 01:00:26,160
don't know one maybe three species of if

1832
01:00:30,630 --> 01:00:28,640
there are you know off-world aliens that

1833
01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:30,640
exist or entities and it was like the

1834
01:00:34,150 --> 01:00:32,480
idea that there could be mantis beings

1835
01:00:36,230 --> 01:00:34,160
or reptilians for whatever reason i

1836
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:36,240
really i just struggled like if someone

1837
01:00:39,829 --> 01:00:37,920
started talking about reptilians i was

1838
01:00:42,549 --> 01:00:39,839
like i don't think i can do this i don't

1839
01:00:43,829 --> 01:00:42,559
know why i was polite

1840
01:00:46,069 --> 01:00:43,839
yeah it was like there was a weird

1841
01:00:47,190 --> 01:00:46,079
blocker that i didn't even know i had

1842
01:00:49,270 --> 01:00:47,200
and it was weird that it would already

1843
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:49,280
be kind of built into me and i'm someone

1844
01:00:52,710 --> 01:00:51,040
who i like to think i'm pretty open i

1845
01:00:54,630 --> 01:00:52,720
love to try and like push my boundaries

1846
01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:54,640
of where i'm at mentally and that one

1847
01:00:58,069 --> 01:00:56,160
was just like ingrained in me and i

1848
01:00:59,589 --> 01:00:58,079
don't know why it was like the minute

1849
01:01:01,270 --> 01:00:59,599
someone brought up reptilians i was like

1850
01:01:02,950 --> 01:01:01,280
i'm out and not that i was out of the

1851
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:02,960
conversation but like i was checked out

1852
01:01:05,910 --> 01:01:04,799
mentally a little bit i'll admit

1853
01:01:07,109 --> 01:01:05,920
um

1854
01:01:08,549 --> 01:01:07,119
hey thank you

1855
01:01:10,549 --> 01:01:08,559
so much mr crowley all those who have

1856
01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:10,559
given super chat tonight sorr as well as

1857
01:01:14,309 --> 01:01:13,119
michael gordias as well as uh i think

1858
01:01:15,750 --> 01:01:14,319
dry toast might have given one i

1859
01:01:17,829 --> 01:01:15,760
apologize i missed someone else i forgot

1860
01:01:19,670 --> 01:01:17,839
to write them down earlier mr crowley

1861
01:01:22,470 --> 01:01:19,680
says i'm pregnant to big willy thanks to

1862
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:22,480
that voice well mr crowley it is what it

1863
01:01:26,069 --> 01:01:24,319
is at this point in time you'll make a

1864
01:01:27,510 --> 01:01:26,079
wonderful single father i'm just kidding

1865
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:27,520
i would be there if we had a baby it's

1866
01:01:30,069 --> 01:01:28,400
okay

1867
01:01:31,430 --> 01:01:30,079
all right guys so let's take a quick

1868
01:01:33,510 --> 01:01:31,440
little break refill the drinks you'd

1869
01:01:35,030 --> 01:01:33,520
like go use the bathroom if you need to

1870
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:35,040
and we'll be right back and i will drop

1871
01:01:39,270 --> 01:01:37,359
the links in the chat for you to come

1872
01:01:41,030 --> 01:01:39,280
and hang out with us and continue the

1873
01:01:42,309 --> 01:01:41,040
conversation and we'll figure out what's

1874
01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:42,319
going on at the bottom here because i

1875
01:01:46,470 --> 01:01:43,520
don't even know what that is at this

1876
01:02:22,900 --> 01:01:46,480
point all right we'll be right back

1877
01:02:26,570 --> 01:02:24,390
[Music]

1878
01:02:34,910 --> 01:02:26,580
so

1879
01:04:04,069 --> 01:02:42,320
[Music]

1880
01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:06,470
and we're back i just barely made i was

1881
01:04:11,430 --> 01:04:08,480
like running up the stairs all right

1882
01:04:13,589 --> 01:04:11,440
welcome back to the top of our two

1883
01:04:15,910 --> 01:04:13,599
the the second and last of the hours

1884
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:15,920
here before mr dave scott kicks things

1885
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:17,760
over and off over there at spacedown

1886
01:04:22,230 --> 01:04:20,160
radio excuse me

1887
01:04:23,829 --> 01:04:22,240
uh i was running downstairs i was in the

1888
01:04:25,589 --> 01:04:23,839
basement like three sites of three

1889
01:04:26,630 --> 01:04:25,599
flights upstairs i'm gonna get a little

1890
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,640
fridge or something set up down here so

1891
01:04:30,309 --> 01:04:28,240
i have to run so far

1892
01:04:31,430 --> 01:04:30,319
all right i will wait for josh and

1893
01:04:32,470 --> 01:04:31,440
artemis to get back really quick and i

1894
01:04:34,390 --> 01:04:32,480
already see we have some people in the

1895
01:04:36,230 --> 01:04:34,400
backstage already so thank you very much

1896
01:04:38,309 --> 01:04:36,240
for those that are back there i will get

1897
01:04:40,069 --> 01:04:38,319
to you in just like uh just a minute

1898
01:04:42,630 --> 01:04:40,079
uh looks like we have a couple spots

1899
01:04:44,870 --> 01:04:42,640
open if it may also like hop in as well

1900
01:04:46,549 --> 01:04:44,880
and we'll see i'm not sure what is going

1901
01:04:48,309 --> 01:04:46,559
on once again

1902
01:04:50,630 --> 01:04:48,319
with the chat priscilla i did see as i

1903
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:50,640
was leaving oh my god i gotta breathe

1904
01:04:54,150 --> 01:04:52,240
then um you were talking about like

1905
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:54,160
removing the conspiracy part of it and

1906
01:04:57,190 --> 01:04:56,000
how there's a lot to

1907
01:04:59,829 --> 01:04:57,200
um

1908
01:05:02,309 --> 01:04:59,839
those that have had experiences with you

1909
01:05:03,029 --> 01:05:02,319
know the reptilians and i 100 believe

1910
01:05:04,309 --> 01:05:03,039
that

1911
01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:04,319
it's it's definitely changed my

1912
01:05:07,910 --> 01:05:06,640
perspective that's kind of the point of

1913
01:05:09,589 --> 01:05:07,920
being able to sit down and just listen

1914
01:05:11,670 --> 01:05:09,599
to some people and say hey

1915
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:11,680
let's listen to it and it was a good

1916
01:05:15,750 --> 01:05:13,440
experience and it's something that even

1917
01:05:17,190 --> 01:05:15,760
though i've never experienced myself i

1918
01:05:18,309 --> 01:05:17,200
definitely get it and i'm definitely not

1919
01:05:23,430 --> 01:05:18,319
as

1920
01:05:28,549 --> 01:05:23,440
had it happen so

1921
01:05:32,390 --> 01:05:30,710
excuse me i will drink to that

1922
01:05:35,670 --> 01:05:32,400
all right guys don't forget next week i

1923
01:05:37,750 --> 01:05:35,680
will have artemis prime on there with me

1924
01:05:40,549 --> 01:05:37,760
excuse me what am i talking about

1925
01:05:42,309 --> 01:05:40,559
i will have akashi chris

1926
01:05:43,670 --> 01:05:42,319
i'm just making up names at this point

1927
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:43,680
i'm just making up names that don't even

1928
01:05:47,270 --> 01:05:45,760
exist i'm like yeah that uh well i'll

1929
01:05:49,510 --> 01:05:47,280
have um

1930
01:05:51,510 --> 01:05:49,520
bobo jokey pants on there or not bobo

1931
01:05:53,349 --> 01:05:51,520
you guys what was his name

1932
01:05:56,069 --> 01:05:53,359
oh spooky would kill me right now from

1933
01:05:57,750 --> 01:05:56,079
um lord of the rings

1934
01:05:59,029 --> 01:05:57,760
i should bring him in josh i'm gonna

1935
01:06:00,470 --> 01:05:59,039
bring it back in real quick is that okay

1936
01:06:02,309 --> 01:06:00,480
brother

1937
01:06:03,990 --> 01:06:02,319
thumb thumbs up all right

1938
01:06:05,750 --> 01:06:04,000
josh thank you for coming back welcome

1939
01:06:07,589 --> 01:06:05,760
back to our two really quick do you

1940
01:06:09,349 --> 01:06:07,599
remember and i'm having like a brain

1941
01:06:11,510 --> 01:06:09,359
fart the lord of the rings you ever

1942
01:06:13,029 --> 01:06:11,520
watched it yeah i've i've seen all of

1943
01:06:14,710 --> 01:06:13,039
them okay

1944
01:06:16,150 --> 01:06:14,720
i'm calling him bubble baggy pants and

1945
01:06:31,109 --> 01:06:16,160
that's not right because that was the

1946
01:06:35,349 --> 01:06:32,710
for like a really long time only up

1947
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:35,359
until recently yeah it was okay because

1948
01:06:38,549 --> 01:06:36,960
so in a moment there was like whatever i

1949
01:06:39,990 --> 01:06:38,559
wanted to say akashi chris and i was

1950
01:06:41,750 --> 01:06:40,000
like part of his prime you know i heard

1951
01:06:44,069 --> 01:06:41,760
you i was thinking because it used to

1952
01:06:45,510 --> 01:06:44,079
remind me of optimus prime

1953
01:06:46,630 --> 01:06:45,520
i was like right

1954
01:06:48,630 --> 01:06:46,640
but you know what

1955
01:06:51,430 --> 01:06:48,640
you're the second person

1956
01:06:53,190 --> 01:06:51,440
today or yesterday i got a message from

1957
01:06:55,670 --> 01:06:53,200
somebody who just started following me

1958
01:06:57,670 --> 01:06:55,680
on twitter he's like oh it's so funny

1959
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:57,680
like i used to know or he's like i know

1960
01:07:01,190 --> 01:06:59,440
of an artemis prime blah blah blah and

1961
01:07:03,510 --> 01:07:01,200
i'm like yeah that's me

1962
01:07:05,349 --> 01:07:03,520
yeah nice they were talking about me but

1963
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:05,359
didn't realize i was the same person

1964
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:07,760
because i like i took it off of twitter

1965
01:07:13,349 --> 01:07:11,280
and stuff it was really funny i was like

1966
01:07:15,029 --> 01:07:13,359
and there wasn't a bubble baggy pants it

1967
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:15,039
was a song i don't remember the group

1968
01:07:18,069 --> 01:07:16,640
that used to do but they would do um

1969
01:07:19,910 --> 01:07:18,079
they'd make up silly songs and like

1970
01:07:21,109 --> 01:07:19,920
youtube videos of famous things and that

1971
01:07:22,630 --> 01:07:21,119
was the character it was his name was

1972
01:07:25,029 --> 01:07:22,640
bobo becky pants

1973
01:07:26,470 --> 01:07:25,039
uh so really quick we do have uh some

1974
01:07:28,710 --> 01:07:26,480
people in the backstage we'll bring on

1975
01:07:30,870 --> 01:07:28,720
in in just a second here uh thank you

1976
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:30,880
once again artemis and josh for coming

1977
01:07:33,670 --> 01:07:32,480
and hanging out with us tonight and

1978
01:07:34,870 --> 01:07:33,680
let's see what happens because we never

1979
01:07:36,309 --> 01:07:34,880
know this is a part of the show where

1980
01:07:37,990 --> 01:07:36,319
things can you know they go over the

1981
01:07:39,910 --> 01:07:38,000
place we'll have we'll try everybody a

1982
01:07:41,270 --> 01:07:39,920
chance to ask you guys a question

1983
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:41,280
and go around the room and share some

1984
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:43,119
ideas and thoughts

1985
01:07:47,270 --> 01:07:45,280
and yeah so here we go so we have first

1986
01:07:50,230 --> 01:07:47,280
and foremost mr crowley in the

1987
01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:52,390
you sure you want to do this that's what

1988
01:08:04,710 --> 01:07:54,720
we're doing we're doing it

1989
01:08:07,670 --> 01:08:06,069
oh i didn't even notice for a second

1990
01:08:09,270 --> 01:08:07,680
until you pointed out which is sad i

1991
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:09,280
should because you had the one before

1992
01:08:14,950 --> 01:08:12,240
pretty good yeah it is working yes sir

1993
01:08:16,309 --> 01:08:14,960
and then mr larry a

1994
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:16,319
larry

1995
01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:19,839
forever last time i saw him he had his

1996
01:08:24,149 --> 01:08:21,920
shirt off in his traps all right he is

1997
01:08:26,149 --> 01:08:24,159
the reason that there's a team i just

1998
01:08:27,349 --> 01:08:26,159
have a question here you know when lou

1999
01:08:30,229 --> 01:08:27,359
was on

2000
01:08:33,349 --> 01:08:30,239
and uh ben and joe were uh showing the

2001
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:33,359
program well i asked a question to lou

2002
01:08:37,829 --> 01:08:35,279
what you know that he couldn't tell us

2003
01:08:41,749 --> 01:08:37,839
all about ufos because it will be a

2004
01:08:43,829 --> 01:08:41,759
threat to national security and what

2005
01:08:46,709 --> 01:08:43,839
what is his what i don't understand is

2006
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,719
what is his definition to a threat of

2007
01:08:49,510 --> 01:08:48,400
national security

2008
01:08:51,110 --> 01:08:49,520
and

2009
01:08:53,829 --> 01:08:51,120
i don't know why but they wouldn't ask

2010
01:08:55,990 --> 01:08:53,839
that question to him

2011
01:08:58,229 --> 01:08:56,000
i mean i think what lou means by

2012
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:58,239
national security or threat is because

2013
01:09:01,669 --> 01:08:59,600
it's not

2014
01:09:04,149 --> 01:09:01,679
identified yet i presume that's what

2015
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:04,159
he's talking about and i agree with that

2016
01:09:09,669 --> 01:09:06,319
military i'm actually you have the u.s

2017
01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,679
air force you guys know yeah allegedly

2018
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:10,960
yeah

2019
01:09:15,030 --> 01:09:13,359
i'll show my ship right now i'm kidding

2020
01:09:17,430 --> 01:09:15,040
yeah but

2021
01:09:25,910 --> 01:09:17,440
why not stop him from telling us about

2022
01:09:30,229 --> 01:09:28,390
because if he tells you there's a threat

2023
01:09:31,430 --> 01:09:30,239
that they're a threat then that's

2024
01:09:33,590 --> 01:09:31,440
admitting

2025
01:09:34,870 --> 01:09:33,600
that the united states military has

2026
01:09:35,749 --> 01:09:34,880
information

2027
01:09:37,749 --> 01:09:35,759
showing

2028
01:09:39,910 --> 01:09:37,759
that they know they're a threat

2029
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:39,920
or they know that they're

2030
01:09:44,309 --> 01:09:41,600
you know what i mean so

2031
01:09:46,470 --> 01:09:44,319
he can't he can't do that

2032
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:46,480
but it's really quick too guys i'm sorry

2033
01:09:48,390 --> 01:09:47,279
just really quick i want to get

2034
01:09:49,749 --> 01:09:48,400
everybody in here because we still have

2035
01:09:52,789 --> 01:09:49,759
more people in the backstage so really

2036
01:09:54,229 --> 01:09:52,799
quick i'm going to bring in the legion i

2037
01:09:56,470 --> 01:09:54,239
don't think we've ever had the pleasure

2038
01:09:57,510 --> 01:09:56,480
of uh hanging out or talking absolutely

2039
01:10:00,830 --> 01:09:57,520
not

2040
01:10:04,310 --> 01:10:00,840
so thank you thank you for coming on

2041
01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:04,320
um and uh mr crowley will be right back

2042
01:10:08,709 --> 01:10:07,199
thank you for coming on and then

2043
01:10:11,430 --> 01:10:08,719
really quickly too i'm gonna also bring

2044
01:10:12,550 --> 01:10:11,440
in the one and only the man the myth the

2045
01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:12,560
legend

2046
01:10:22,070 --> 01:10:20,450
so i better come and do yours

2047
01:10:23,430 --> 01:10:22,080
[Laughter]

2048
01:10:25,750 --> 01:10:23,440
it's okay

2049
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:25,760
that is okay um so really quickly thank

2050
01:10:28,630 --> 01:10:27,040
you for all of you that have come out

2051
01:10:29,669 --> 01:10:28,640
here and obviously larry's got a

2052
01:10:31,510 --> 01:10:29,679
question right off the bat here and he's

2053
01:10:33,189 --> 01:10:31,520
asking this so josh please uh if you had

2054
01:10:34,149 --> 01:10:33,199
any answers you want to give to him and

2055
01:10:35,350 --> 01:10:34,159
then we'll work our way around the room

2056
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:35,360
and see everybody can get a question in

2057
01:10:38,709 --> 01:10:36,560
for him

2058
01:10:41,990 --> 01:10:38,719
yeah so i mean in terms of the threat i

2059
01:10:44,149 --> 01:10:42,000
mean um what's strange to me because

2060
01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:44,159
like the us and the news have said or it

2061
01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:45,840
could it could be a potential threat to

2062
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,159
national security for example but

2063
01:10:52,310 --> 01:10:49,920
if you look at other parts of the world

2064
01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:52,320
like if you look at the uk for example

2065
01:10:56,390 --> 01:10:53,600
like they've

2066
01:10:58,950 --> 01:10:56,400
the the uk have never sent it to threat

2067
01:11:01,110 --> 01:10:58,960
um australia they came out a few weeks

2068
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:01,120
ago and said they've done some

2069
01:11:04,790 --> 01:11:03,040
investigations and they've said it's not

2070
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:04,800
a threat to them

2071
01:11:08,229 --> 01:11:06,719
so it's kind of weird like like i've

2072
01:11:09,189 --> 01:11:08,239
brought it up on a few shows but it's

2073
01:11:11,590 --> 01:11:09,199
always

2074
01:11:13,110 --> 01:11:11,600
been weird to me how it's only the us

2075
01:11:15,430 --> 01:11:13,120
who's saying this is the threat and no

2076
01:11:16,229 --> 01:11:15,440
one else is like that doesn't make sense

2077
01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:16,239
to me

2078
01:11:21,590 --> 01:11:19,760
makes me feel like they're trying to

2079
01:11:24,630 --> 01:11:21,600
cover something up that they don't want

2080
01:11:26,390 --> 01:11:24,640
us to know about or distract us

2081
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:26,400
it's preparation for the false flag

2082
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:28,560
operation well if you look if you look

2083
01:11:35,030 --> 01:11:32,400
at other countries they are way more

2084
01:11:37,189 --> 01:11:35,040
open with ufo encounters and everything

2085
01:11:40,070 --> 01:11:37,199
else yeah like france for example france

2086
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:40,080
has been really open um like like a

2087
01:11:43,510 --> 01:11:41,760
brazil as well they've opened up their

2088
01:11:45,669 --> 01:11:43,520
files to the public for

2089
01:11:48,070 --> 01:11:45,679
for a long time um

2090
01:11:50,870 --> 01:11:48,080
so it's so it is weird how like

2091
01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:50,880
different parts of the world see this

2092
01:11:55,350 --> 01:11:52,880
see the ufo topic in a different way to

2093
01:11:58,070 --> 01:11:55,360
america do you know it's it's always

2094
01:12:00,070 --> 01:11:58,080
been weird to me though

2095
01:12:01,910 --> 01:12:00,080
well i kind of see it as we've always

2096
01:12:05,990 --> 01:12:01,920
been the top dog

2097
01:12:08,390 --> 01:12:06,000
and we're kind of almost an underdog now

2098
01:12:09,910 --> 01:12:08,400
so things are a little bit more you know

2099
01:12:11,590 --> 01:12:09,920
i mean sensitive

2100
01:12:14,070 --> 01:12:11,600
you know because like we're not the

2101
01:12:14,870 --> 01:12:14,080
major superpower in the world anymore

2102
01:12:17,110 --> 01:12:14,880
yeah

2103
01:12:18,550 --> 01:12:17,120
you know and now we're kind of

2104
01:12:19,510 --> 01:12:18,560
guarding our eggs

2105
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:19,520
kind of thing

2106
01:12:24,470 --> 01:12:21,920
yeah i can i can boil it down and make

2107
01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:24,480
it very clear what the threat is that

2108
01:12:29,030 --> 01:12:26,320
they won't talk about

2109
01:12:30,470 --> 01:12:29,040
okay the threat is reputational

2110
01:12:32,149 --> 01:12:30,480
the united states has the biggest

2111
01:12:34,550 --> 01:12:32,159
military in the world that could

2112
01:12:35,750 --> 01:12:34,560
overthrow the next 10 nations combined

2113
01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:35,760
not true

2114
01:12:39,990 --> 01:12:37,520
india well it has the biggest military

2115
01:12:42,149 --> 01:12:40,000
in the world india has the most forces

2116
01:12:44,229 --> 01:12:42,159
uh but as far as expenditure on

2117
01:12:45,750 --> 01:12:44,239
technologies and resources for the

2118
01:12:47,830 --> 01:12:45,760
military

2119
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:47,840
the us has got that but this is where

2120
01:12:52,790 --> 01:12:49,679
the problem comes in

2121
01:12:54,149 --> 01:12:52,800
if you know all the ufo history

2122
01:12:57,110 --> 01:12:54,159
you know about

2123
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:57,120
the spacecraft that shut down

2124
01:13:02,709 --> 01:13:00,080
the u.s nuclear launch facility a long

2125
01:13:04,870 --> 01:13:02,719
time ago this completely took it offline

2126
01:13:06,950 --> 01:13:04,880
you all know about that right

2127
01:13:09,510 --> 01:13:06,960
and you also know about the russian

2128
01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:09,520
facility where the missiles were put

2129
01:13:14,310 --> 01:13:11,679
into launch sequence

2130
01:13:16,790 --> 01:13:14,320
and ready to come out

2131
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:16,800
you connect these two things together

2132
01:13:20,550 --> 01:13:18,640
and what you have is that

2133
01:13:22,790 --> 01:13:20,560
no nation has

2134
01:13:24,709 --> 01:13:22,800
weapons of mass destruction they do not

2135
01:13:28,229 --> 01:13:24,719
have nuclear weapons

2136
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:28,239
they have nuclear liabilities

2137
01:13:33,590 --> 01:13:30,880
because anyone can fire nuclear weapons

2138
01:13:36,390 --> 01:13:33,600
against someone else and if the

2139
01:13:38,870 --> 01:13:36,400
celestials can just shut down your

2140
01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:38,880
launch capabilities you cannot have

2141
01:13:42,950 --> 01:13:41,199
retaliatory strike

2142
01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:42,960
and they can detonate every single one

2143
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:44,800
of the nukes in whatever silo it's

2144
01:13:48,630 --> 01:13:47,280
sitting in and glass the nation that

2145
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:48,640
owns them

2146
01:13:53,669 --> 01:13:51,520
yeah you're right

2147
01:13:55,590 --> 01:13:53,679
they can set them off that's right

2148
01:13:57,270 --> 01:13:55,600
none of your countries can

2149
01:13:59,750 --> 01:13:57,280
protect you

2150
01:14:02,070 --> 01:13:59,760
the threat to the united states is to

2151
01:14:04,390 --> 01:14:02,080
their reputation as the ones who can

2152
01:14:06,310 --> 01:14:04,400
defend and act as the world police

2153
01:14:08,630 --> 01:14:06,320
that's it right there once again when

2154
01:14:09,830 --> 01:14:08,640
you put and when you put in trans-medium

2155
01:14:11,750 --> 01:14:09,840
vehicles

2156
01:14:14,870 --> 01:14:11,760
we're talking about the ability to move

2157
01:14:17,110 --> 01:14:14,880
through solid matter you know that's a

2158
01:14:19,590 --> 01:14:17,120
delivery system for any weapon that

2159
01:14:21,990 --> 01:14:19,600
cannot be intercepted

2160
01:14:23,990 --> 01:14:22,000
there is no protection if there were

2161
01:14:26,149 --> 01:14:24,000
hostile intention

2162
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:26,159
but for the united states to be trusted

2163
01:14:30,630 --> 01:14:28,239
as the ones who are going to defend the

2164
01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,640
world they're working on a false flag

2165
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:32,000
operation

2166
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:34,480
with very poor replications of celestial

2167
01:14:38,790 --> 01:14:36,400
vehicles that they will successfully

2168
01:14:40,790 --> 01:14:38,800
shoot down out of the sky

2169
01:14:42,630 --> 01:14:40,800
and get the entire world believing the

2170
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:42,640
concept that they're the only ones who

2171
01:14:47,430 --> 01:14:45,840
can protect the world from celestials

2172
01:14:49,189 --> 01:14:47,440
and then everyone starts funneling their

2173
01:14:51,510 --> 01:14:49,199
money to the u.s

2174
01:14:53,270 --> 01:14:51,520
they get to establish more military aces

2175
01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:53,280
all around the world and you have all

2176
01:14:57,350 --> 01:14:55,440
surrendered to them without them ever

2177
01:15:00,470 --> 01:14:57,360
taking action against you

2178
01:15:03,510 --> 01:15:00,480
okay the only argument i have to that is

2179
01:15:05,430 --> 01:15:03,520
china has introduced ai

2180
01:15:08,189 --> 01:15:05,440
interception

2181
01:15:10,470 --> 01:15:08,199
yeah to the inter-terrestrial

2182
01:15:11,270 --> 01:15:10,480
ultra-terrestrial right interdimensional

2183
01:15:12,149 --> 01:15:11,280
thing

2184
01:15:15,189 --> 01:15:12,159
so

2185
01:15:16,790 --> 01:15:15,199
who's the leap frog

2186
01:15:19,189 --> 01:15:16,800
right

2187
01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:19,199
yeah it's intercepting things that are

2188
01:15:23,189 --> 01:15:20,640
phase shifted

2189
01:15:25,110 --> 01:15:23,199
is a nightmare

2190
01:15:26,790 --> 01:15:25,120
and china and there's only

2191
01:15:28,790 --> 01:15:26,800
yeah there's only so much barrier that

2192
01:15:31,750 --> 01:15:28,800
can be put up around a region for that

2193
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:31,760
and i honestly think china has kind of

2194
01:15:35,430 --> 01:15:33,520
you know

2195
01:15:36,390 --> 01:15:35,440
led the

2196
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:36,400
world

2197
01:15:56,630 --> 01:15:37,199
in

2198
01:15:58,790 --> 01:15:56,640
called a rival i i know there's been

2199
01:16:00,390 --> 01:15:58,800
yeah he really likes that movie yeah and

2200
01:16:01,510 --> 01:16:00,400
i think there was an original too but i

2201
01:16:02,870 --> 01:16:01,520
i didn't see that one yeah it was a

2202
01:16:04,470 --> 01:16:02,880
charlie sheen i think the original i

2203
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:04,480
think it's a different story

2204
01:16:09,990 --> 01:16:08,550
[Music]

2205
01:16:12,470 --> 01:16:10,000
is that the one with the aliens with the

2206
01:16:13,189 --> 01:16:12,480
backward leg yeah i think that's the one

2207
01:16:14,470 --> 01:16:13,199
yeah

2208
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:14,480
very nice

2209
01:16:18,070 --> 01:16:16,880
um what's always uh interested me about

2210
01:16:20,550 --> 01:16:18,080
that before i bring in we have another

2211
01:16:21,750 --> 01:16:20,560
guess in the backstage here is that uh

2212
01:16:24,229 --> 01:16:21,760
the

2213
01:16:25,750 --> 01:16:24,239
who represents us to

2214
01:16:28,390 --> 01:16:25,760
said entities

2215
01:16:31,030 --> 01:16:28,400
who's like the uh the ambassador and how

2216
01:16:32,790 --> 01:16:31,040
does that one ambassador even a small

2217
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:32,800
entity a group of people

2218
01:16:37,590 --> 01:16:35,040
really represent the all

2219
01:16:38,790 --> 01:16:37,600
of humanity and it's always really just

2220
01:16:40,950 --> 01:16:38,800
bothered me you know what i mean because

2221
01:16:44,070 --> 01:16:40,960
in that movie she was she was the thing

2222
01:16:45,990 --> 01:16:44,080
she was the one person it's

2223
01:16:47,990 --> 01:16:46,000
um there's a movie called contact as

2224
01:16:49,590 --> 01:16:48,000
well if you've seen that one yeah like a

2225
01:16:51,750 --> 01:16:49,600
similar sort of scenario where they have

2226
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:51,760
to decide who's going to rep who's going

2227
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:54,080
to represent the world you know to go

2228
01:16:58,229 --> 01:16:55,760
meet these beings and it's a similar

2229
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:58,239
sort of um scenario where they've got a

2230
01:17:03,430 --> 01:17:00,080
way of like religious

2231
01:17:05,270 --> 01:17:03,440
um aspects and science as well and

2232
01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:05,280
find someone who's kind of

2233
01:17:08,870 --> 01:17:07,600
in both both of those worlds i guess so

2234
01:17:10,870 --> 01:17:08,880
it's a difficult

2235
01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:10,880
question i mean if you could put one

2236
01:17:14,470 --> 01:17:12,640
person there big

2237
01:17:16,390 --> 01:17:14,480
a willy now who

2238
01:17:18,149 --> 01:17:16,400
who would you choose

2239
01:17:20,070 --> 01:17:18,159
there would be no one person yeah

2240
01:17:22,229 --> 01:17:20,080
absolutely i there's no way that one

2241
01:17:24,070 --> 01:17:22,239
person encompasses uh

2242
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:24,080
you know all i think

2243
01:17:30,310 --> 01:17:27,040
oh shoot i i mean just we're so broad in

2244
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:30,320
our like uh our spectrum of humanity as

2245
01:17:32,790 --> 01:17:32,000
a whole i mean it'd have to be no less

2246
01:17:34,950 --> 01:17:32,800
than

2247
01:17:36,630 --> 01:17:34,960
probably a hundred people per country

2248
01:17:38,149 --> 01:17:36,640
that would try to even

2249
01:17:40,870 --> 01:17:38,159
encompass that i don't think we could

2250
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:40,880
really do it although i do think that

2251
01:17:43,910 --> 01:17:42,800
most of humanity as much as we're pitted

2252
01:17:45,110 --> 01:17:43,920
against each other and their arguments

2253
01:17:46,390 --> 01:17:45,120
take place

2254
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:46,400
you took people and you put them in a

2255
01:17:49,110 --> 01:17:47,760
room and you know all the different

2256
01:17:51,189 --> 01:17:49,120
religions that don't get along and all

2257
01:17:52,709 --> 01:17:51,199
the different politics and if you ask

2258
01:17:54,709 --> 01:17:52,719
them just list the 10 most important

2259
01:17:57,189 --> 01:17:54,719
things to them in life regardless of

2260
01:17:58,630 --> 01:17:57,199
political spectrum or religion

2261
01:18:00,229 --> 01:17:58,640
more than likely eighty percent of the

2262
01:18:02,070 --> 01:18:00,239
people are going to have

2263
01:18:03,189 --> 01:18:02,080
their top ten things be really similar

2264
01:18:05,189 --> 01:18:03,199
close to each other depending on the

2265
01:18:07,110 --> 01:18:05,199
same order but there's just basic human

2266
01:18:09,030 --> 01:18:07,120
things that i think matter to us yeah

2267
01:18:11,030 --> 01:18:09,040
and i don't think we're as divided or as

2268
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:11,040
far apart as we're usually

2269
01:18:15,270 --> 01:18:13,040
led to believe

2270
01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:15,280
i can say this working for the u.s

2271
01:18:19,590 --> 01:18:17,440
government most of my life

2272
01:18:21,189 --> 01:18:19,600
that we have no [\h__\h] idea what we're

2273
01:18:22,870 --> 01:18:21,199
doing dude

2274
01:18:24,149 --> 01:18:22,880
we don't i'm just gonna put that

2275
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:24,159
straight out there we have no [\h__\h]

2276
01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:27,600
idea what we're doing

2277
01:18:32,310 --> 01:18:30,159
very true there's no inter communication

2278
01:18:33,990 --> 01:18:32,320
there's no understanding

2279
01:18:35,590 --> 01:18:34,000
nobody wants to reach outside their

2280
01:18:37,990 --> 01:18:35,600
wheelhouse to

2281
01:18:39,030 --> 01:18:38,000
get information from somebody else

2282
01:18:44,070 --> 01:18:39,040
it's

2283
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:44,080
so here's some a question for you um

2284
01:18:48,630 --> 01:18:46,880
mr crowley sorry um you mentioned there

2285
01:18:50,229 --> 01:18:48,640
you surf for like you know you've been

2286
01:18:51,910 --> 01:18:50,239
involved with with for the government

2287
01:18:54,229 --> 01:18:51,920
for a while um

2288
01:18:56,550 --> 01:18:54,239
how do you see the war and like how that

2289
01:18:57,910 --> 01:18:56,560
might impact the conversation for ufos

2290
01:19:00,070 --> 01:18:57,920
for this year do you think it's going to

2291
01:19:01,990 --> 01:19:00,080
set us back or do you think it will just

2292
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:02,000
things are going to keep moving the way

2293
01:19:05,830 --> 01:19:04,239
they are or do you think it will

2294
01:19:07,669 --> 01:19:05,840
you're going to get money again or

2295
01:19:08,790 --> 01:19:07,679
you're going to get trickles yeah that's

2296
01:19:10,229 --> 01:19:08,800
what you're going to get you're going to

2297
01:19:12,870 --> 01:19:10,239
get trickles you're not going to get the

2298
01:19:14,870 --> 01:19:12,880
full story because the simple fact is if

2299
01:19:16,390 --> 01:19:14,880
i don't know what the [\h__\h] going on

2300
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,400
i'm not going to

2301
01:19:19,910 --> 01:19:18,480
tell you that

2302
01:19:22,390 --> 01:19:19,920
you know what i mean i'm not going to

2303
01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:22,400
compromise myself or my country

2304
01:19:26,390 --> 01:19:24,400
and make them worry

2305
01:19:28,390 --> 01:19:26,400
about i don't know

2306
01:19:31,669 --> 01:19:28,400
you know what i mean and that's the ego

2307
01:19:34,229 --> 01:19:31,679
part of the country is i don't know

2308
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:34,239
yeah you know which a lot of us in this

2309
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:37,120
field paranormal you know what have you

2310
01:19:41,270 --> 01:19:38,560
ufo

2311
01:19:43,110 --> 01:19:41,280
it's we don't admit we don't [\h__\h]

2312
01:19:45,189 --> 01:19:43,120
know we don't know

2313
01:19:47,910 --> 01:19:45,199
you know and your country is your

2314
01:19:49,350 --> 01:19:47,920
protector your country you look for

2315
01:19:51,830 --> 01:19:49,360
protection from

2316
01:19:53,270 --> 01:19:51,840
and for them to tell you they don't know

2317
01:19:54,149 --> 01:19:53,280
how many

2318
01:19:57,189 --> 01:19:54,159
you know

2319
01:19:58,950 --> 01:19:57,199
situations is that going to cause

2320
01:20:00,630 --> 01:19:58,960
you know now you have no faith in your

2321
01:20:02,070 --> 01:20:00,640
country you're worried about this you're

2322
01:20:04,390 --> 01:20:02,080
worried about that

2323
01:20:06,310 --> 01:20:04,400
you know so it's

2324
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:06,320
it's and that

2325
01:20:10,709 --> 01:20:07,920
i was going to say that itself also

2326
01:20:11,830 --> 01:20:10,719
emboldens the creation of religious

2327
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:11,840
cults

2328
01:20:15,110 --> 01:20:13,360
because if your government says they

2329
01:20:17,510 --> 01:20:15,120
don't have answers and they can't do

2330
01:20:20,870 --> 01:20:17,520
anything for you anyone that claims that

2331
01:20:24,310 --> 01:20:20,880
they can has a path to power yeah

2332
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:24,320
let's talk about that later i mean yeah

2333
01:20:29,910 --> 01:20:26,880
really quick too guys

2334
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:29,920
one more here uh michael g

2335
01:20:34,310 --> 01:20:32,480
so close to kenny g but michael g

2336
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:34,320
backstage so let's bring him on i don't

2337
01:20:36,709 --> 01:20:35,600
think he's everyone i'm so excited to

2338
01:20:39,350 --> 01:20:36,719
see all the new people hopping on here

2339
01:20:41,030 --> 01:20:39,360
tonight welcome to the show brother

2340
01:20:42,470 --> 01:20:41,040
oh hey what's up big bully are you

2341
01:20:44,550 --> 01:20:42,480
drinking water everybody

2342
01:20:50,380 --> 01:20:44,560
drinking water before the conversation

2343
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:51,590
[Music]

2344
01:20:55,669 --> 01:20:54,239
he ate at my family's restaurant

2345
01:20:57,030 --> 01:20:55,679
um

2346
01:20:59,669 --> 01:20:57,040
back when my dad used to own a

2347
01:21:01,189 --> 01:20:59,679
restaurant and uh everybody thought it

2348
01:21:03,750 --> 01:21:01,199
was such a big deal i was like who the f

2349
01:21:05,350 --> 01:21:03,760
is kenny g i was like

2350
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:05,360
famous saxophone

2351
01:21:07,830 --> 01:21:06,159
so

2352
01:21:09,510 --> 01:21:07,840
i met him and i was like

2353
01:21:12,470 --> 01:21:09,520
nice to meet you

2354
01:21:15,110 --> 01:21:12,480
but at the time i had no idea who he was

2355
01:21:16,950 --> 01:21:15,120
yeah that's awesome i love it well we

2356
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:16,960
don't have quiet kenny g but we have

2357
01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:19,440
michael g and then we'll take that yeah

2358
01:21:23,990 --> 01:21:21,679
you know i mean you know this is my

2359
01:21:25,830 --> 01:21:24,000
first time here but i was i'm always on

2360
01:21:29,590 --> 01:21:25,840
like the chats

2361
01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:29,600
and actually i'm a rapper but like oh no

2362
01:21:34,229 --> 01:21:31,600
yeah i don't have nothing now i'm just

2363
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:34,239
regular like i work you know

2364
01:21:39,110 --> 01:21:36,800
but also an experiencer too i just never

2365
01:21:41,669 --> 01:21:39,120
talked about it i'm a stupid one i wrote

2366
01:21:43,350 --> 01:21:41,679
ufo garage that i would talk to them but

2367
01:21:45,350 --> 01:21:43,360
other than that i'm like i could change

2368
01:21:46,709 --> 01:21:45,360
myself you know

2369
01:21:47,910 --> 01:21:46,719
we start getting too tiny sorry guys

2370
01:21:49,430 --> 01:21:47,920
i'll try to rotate you in and out as

2371
01:21:50,870 --> 01:21:49,440
politely as i can so as long as you guys

2372
01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:50,880
don't talk to each other i'll do my best

2373
01:21:54,629 --> 01:21:52,639
that way we get so it gets so tiny

2374
01:22:00,950 --> 01:21:54,639
otherwise people can't see who's talking

2375
01:22:04,070 --> 01:22:02,629
so we'll see y'all later oh well hang on

2376
01:22:05,590 --> 01:22:04,080
larry hey we can give you a proper

2377
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:05,600
goodbye thank you so much for coming on

2378
01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:07,679
here brother and by the way you are

2379
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:10,159
responsible for the topless two topic

2380
01:22:14,070 --> 01:22:13,360
taco tuesdays i just want you to know

2381
01:22:20,470 --> 01:22:14,080
no

2382
01:22:22,070 --> 01:22:20,480
because i thought i was like the first

2383
01:22:23,510 --> 01:22:22,080
one on her i don't know you were the

2384
01:22:27,110 --> 01:22:23,520
first one on there but larry was the

2385
01:22:28,629 --> 01:22:27,120
first one to ever come on a show

2386
01:22:30,229 --> 01:22:28,639
i'm gonna do it afterwards now i'm just

2387
01:22:31,669 --> 01:22:30,239
kidding

2388
01:22:33,590 --> 01:22:31,679
so thank you larry thank you for all the

2389
01:22:34,790 --> 01:22:33,600
support you show and uh great question

2390
01:22:37,189 --> 01:22:34,800
by the way do you think it is important

2391
01:22:38,870 --> 01:22:37,199
that uh we acknowledge those things that

2392
01:22:40,870 --> 01:22:38,880
you know lou heaven is nda and stuff but

2393
01:22:42,390 --> 01:22:40,880
i get what you're saying as far as them

2394
01:22:43,110 --> 01:22:42,400
having different stuff he can always

2395
01:22:45,110 --> 01:22:43,120
answer you know it's a little

2396
01:22:46,709 --> 01:22:45,120
frustrating sometimes

2397
01:22:48,550 --> 01:22:46,719
you guys have a good evening

2398
01:22:51,510 --> 01:22:48,560
you too have a good one brother larry

2399
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:52,709
already

2400
01:22:56,229 --> 01:22:54,000
there we go

2401
01:22:58,470 --> 01:22:56,239
all right shirt on just so you know

2402
01:23:00,229 --> 01:22:58,480
you're gonna go shirt on yes

2403
01:23:01,750 --> 01:23:00,239
we appreciate it you know what i

2404
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:01,760
actually i told ben i wrote him after

2405
01:23:04,550 --> 01:23:02,800
the show which by the way if you guys

2406
01:23:06,790 --> 01:23:04,560
have not checked it out great interview

2407
01:23:08,470 --> 01:23:06,800
with lou elizondo uh we've been in joe

2408
01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:08,480
there yeah you know

2409
01:23:11,510 --> 01:23:10,080
that was definitely a different side i

2410
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:11,520
mean i feel like i've listened to quite

2411
01:23:14,790 --> 01:23:12,800
a few of them

2412
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,800
i feel like lou gave a little little

2413
01:23:18,629 --> 01:23:16,560
something to him on that one far as it

2414
01:23:20,149 --> 01:23:18,639
not quite being his normal uh spiel and

2415
01:23:21,590 --> 01:23:20,159
i think it's it was it was very

2416
01:23:23,350 --> 01:23:21,600
interesting he's gonna be more chill

2417
01:23:25,430 --> 01:23:23,360
it's it's good to see lou when he's like

2418
01:23:27,750 --> 01:23:25,440
that when he's more like himself and

2419
01:23:29,910 --> 01:23:27,760
he's not so yeah i mean when he's not

2420
01:23:31,189 --> 01:23:29,920
trying to follow his scripts i guess not

2421
01:23:32,709 --> 01:23:31,199
i'm not saying he was gonna follow a

2422
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:32,719
script i'm just saying sometimes it

2423
01:23:36,950 --> 01:23:34,719
seems like it's more

2424
01:23:39,430 --> 01:23:36,960
question answer but about yeah but the

2425
01:23:41,030 --> 01:23:39,440
one with ben on the on like the show

2426
01:23:42,310 --> 01:23:41,040
today was like a conversation which is

2427
01:23:43,270 --> 01:23:42,320
what i want to see i want to see an

2428
01:23:45,910 --> 01:23:43,280
actual

2429
01:23:48,629 --> 01:23:45,920
conversation between lou and someone

2430
01:23:50,470 --> 01:23:48,639
very very true yeah and you know what's

2431
01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:50,480
what was interesting about that too is

2432
01:23:53,189 --> 01:23:51,600
and i don't know what i want to get you

2433
01:23:55,910 --> 01:23:53,199
guys perspective i'm just now i'm asking

2434
01:23:57,430 --> 01:23:55,920
the room in general i guess um

2435
01:23:58,950 --> 01:23:57,440
do you think we're reaching for

2436
01:24:00,790 --> 01:23:58,960
something if we try to read into his

2437
01:24:02,950 --> 01:24:00,800
little like parables that he was giving

2438
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:02,960
which were interesting but do you find

2439
01:24:06,870 --> 01:24:05,520
those little parables kind of like

2440
01:24:08,790 --> 01:24:06,880
kind of well

2441
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:08,800
kind of annoy me sometimes

2442
01:24:13,270 --> 01:24:10,880
if i'm honest

2443
01:24:14,550 --> 01:24:13,280
i mean it's because

2444
01:24:16,310 --> 01:24:14,560
you know

2445
01:24:18,149 --> 01:24:16,320
it's good to look into some but at the

2446
01:24:19,669 --> 01:24:18,159
same time it kind of makes me think that

2447
01:24:21,750 --> 01:24:19,679
sometimes he's just sending off for like

2448
01:24:23,590 --> 01:24:21,760
a wild goose chase a lot of the time

2449
01:24:26,310 --> 01:24:23,600
trying to look for something which which

2450
01:24:28,310 --> 01:24:26,320
might not be there you know so

2451
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:28,320
it's weird i mean honestly i have an

2452
01:24:33,590 --> 01:24:31,280
opinion if i can go for it

2453
01:24:35,590 --> 01:24:33,600
i think like as an experiencer even like

2454
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:35,600
i told like i wrote a letter right to

2455
01:24:39,510 --> 01:24:37,120
ufo garage

2456
01:24:41,189 --> 01:24:39,520
when you talk there's always a lot of

2457
01:24:44,550 --> 01:24:41,199
things like that like if it's really

2458
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:44,560
going on and so you see it i would say

2459
01:24:49,830 --> 01:24:47,120
louis lozando would feel like he would

2460
01:24:51,510 --> 01:24:49,840
know like he's given enough clues but we

2461
01:24:54,070 --> 01:24:51,520
don't have the information that he has

2462
01:24:57,350 --> 01:24:54,080
to put all the pieces together

2463
01:24:58,550 --> 01:24:57,360
so that's probably why to us what

2464
01:24:59,990 --> 01:24:58,560
but

2465
01:25:01,910 --> 01:25:00,000
it's great i don't know i think go back

2466
01:25:04,550 --> 01:25:01,920
and listen to it three four

2467
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:04,560
not that i've done that area once but

2468
01:25:08,550 --> 01:25:06,159
yeah you just never know what he's

2469
01:25:10,390 --> 01:25:08,560
really saying you know yeah

2470
01:25:11,590 --> 01:25:10,400
yeah and i think it's gotta be stressful

2471
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:11,600
like okay

2472
01:25:15,750 --> 01:25:13,440
i wouldn't want to be him i'm just

2473
01:25:17,189 --> 01:25:15,760
saying like i mean i'm sure anybody

2474
01:25:19,910 --> 01:25:17,199
who's ever gone and done any of these

2475
01:25:21,750 --> 01:25:19,920
shows sonny knows from doing his show uh

2476
01:25:23,510 --> 01:25:21,760
josh earnest you guys know people man

2477
01:25:25,110 --> 01:25:23,520
they just have opinions about everything

2478
01:25:27,510 --> 01:25:25,120
you can't please everybody it's not

2479
01:25:29,830 --> 01:25:27,520
going to happen and uh he certainly has

2480
01:25:32,790 --> 01:25:29,840
a big audience paying attention to him

2481
01:25:34,310 --> 01:25:32,800
just micro uh just under a microscope

2482
01:25:36,149 --> 01:25:34,320
every little bit of action he takes or

2483
01:25:38,229 --> 01:25:36,159
anything he said yeah everything he says

2484
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:38,239
for sure but um

2485
01:25:40,390 --> 01:25:39,520
but you know

2486
01:25:42,709 --> 01:25:40,400
i guess

2487
01:25:44,070 --> 01:25:42,719
from my few experiences from just the

2488
01:25:45,430 --> 01:25:44,080
you know hearing him on the show i i

2489
01:25:46,709 --> 01:25:45,440
think i can respect him at the very

2490
01:25:48,070 --> 01:25:46,719
least that he said one thing that i've

2491
01:25:49,830 --> 01:25:48,080
always respected which is i'm here to

2492
01:25:51,669 --> 01:25:49,840
present this information you're you're

2493
01:25:54,229 --> 01:25:51,679
it's your job to make up your own mind

2494
01:25:56,709 --> 01:25:54,239
i respect him for that

2495
01:25:58,550 --> 01:25:56,719
i like the little caveats he has because

2496
01:26:00,310 --> 01:25:58,560
like he has these little

2497
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:00,320
slip moments

2498
01:26:06,550 --> 01:26:04,080
call them to where he just kind of

2499
01:26:08,709 --> 01:26:06,560
alludes to something

2500
01:26:11,110 --> 01:26:08,719
without actually you know what i mean

2501
01:26:12,870 --> 01:26:11,120
he's kind of developed this

2502
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:12,880
this way of

2503
01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:15,280
you know hinting at [\h__\h] without

2504
01:26:18,629 --> 01:26:17,440
you know violating his contract kind of

2505
01:26:21,669 --> 01:26:18,639
thing so

2506
01:26:22,790 --> 01:26:21,679
i heard circulos

2507
01:26:26,020 --> 01:26:22,800
oh

2508
01:26:30,470 --> 01:26:26,030
yeah i'm not saying it's aliens

2509
01:26:34,229 --> 01:26:32,629
i really miss him i feel like somebody

2510
01:26:35,669 --> 01:26:34,239
somebody in our community like somebody

2511
01:26:36,950 --> 01:26:35,679
like that we all hang out with has to

2512
01:26:38,709 --> 01:26:36,960
get somebody should get him on the show

2513
01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:38,719
yeah we need him on a show for sure yeah

2514
01:26:42,470 --> 01:26:40,880
oh my god he'd be the best just to like

2515
01:26:43,990 --> 01:26:42,480
chill with you guys ever watch the show

2516
01:26:46,950 --> 01:26:44,000
ancient alien are not ancient what's

2517
01:26:49,189 --> 01:26:46,960
wrong with me uh resident alien no not

2518
01:26:50,870 --> 01:26:49,199
that one either what is wrong with me

2519
01:26:52,229 --> 01:26:50,880
you know it is resident alien it is

2520
01:26:54,629 --> 01:26:52,239
resident alien it's from the first

2521
01:26:57,189 --> 01:26:55,910
i've seen that

2522
01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:57,199
he's like an actual alien is that the

2523
01:27:01,430 --> 01:26:59,120
one you're talking about

2524
01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:01,440
yeah he's like the doctor but he could

2525
01:27:05,270 --> 01:27:03,760
yeah but he meets

2526
01:27:08,070 --> 01:27:05,280
in the end of the last

2527
01:27:09,669 --> 01:27:08,080
season yeah and it's hilarious because

2528
01:27:11,430 --> 01:27:09,679
he's just like talking about all this

2529
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:11,440
stuff george is and he's just like

2530
01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:12,880
eating all george's like fruit tray

2531
01:27:16,790 --> 01:27:14,800
backstage and then george is just like

2532
01:27:18,310 --> 01:27:16,800
talking away with him about all this but

2533
01:27:20,149 --> 01:27:18,320
it was kind of funny to see him like not

2534
01:27:22,149 --> 01:27:20,159
on ancient aliens just chilling you know

2535
01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:22,159
yeah yeah

2536
01:27:25,910 --> 01:27:24,159
uh what about hey sunny really quick we

2537
01:27:27,669 --> 01:27:25,920
got a question for you do you have a

2538
01:27:29,990 --> 01:27:27,679
question i want him i don't want him not

2539
01:27:31,510 --> 01:27:30,000
i know something interesting

2540
01:27:35,669 --> 01:27:31,520
he just sits here with this dog two

2541
01:27:37,669 --> 01:27:35,679
minutes two minutes before i got on um

2542
01:27:38,950 --> 01:27:37,679
no i've just been sitting here listening

2543
01:27:41,830 --> 01:27:38,960
you guys are basically asking all the

2544
01:27:43,910 --> 01:27:41,840
questions i wanted to hear

2545
01:27:46,149 --> 01:27:43,920
yeah i mean i was gonna say that guy's a

2546
01:27:48,149 --> 01:27:46,159
good actor from resident alien i i've

2547
01:27:49,510 --> 01:27:48,159
seen him live i forgot his name i was

2548
01:27:51,830 --> 01:27:49,520
going to build it but he has a lot of

2549
01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:51,840
stubborn feelings

2550
01:27:55,030 --> 01:27:53,520
things yeah do you guys remember him

2551
01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:55,040
from uh do you guys remember the movie

2552
01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:56,400
uh

2553
01:28:06,870 --> 01:27:58,719
oh my god a knight's tale

2554
01:28:10,950 --> 01:28:08,310
i'm the naked guy

2555
01:28:21,990 --> 01:28:10,960
he is the naked guy he is the naked dad

2556
01:28:25,750 --> 01:28:23,910
his vision in the marvel cinematic

2557
01:28:27,430 --> 01:28:25,760
universe

2558
01:28:30,070 --> 01:28:27,440
i didn't know that

2559
01:28:32,229 --> 01:28:30,080
oh doom patrol he's the villain and like

2560
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:32,239
season two of doom patrol

2561
01:28:35,830 --> 01:28:33,920
wow so he's done a lot and he's even

2562
01:28:37,750 --> 01:28:35,840
done like voice work

2563
01:28:39,830 --> 01:28:37,760
he's trapped in a painting or something

2564
01:28:42,950 --> 01:28:39,840
he's yeah he's he's really good dude the

2565
01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:42,960
golden years dancing in that movie is

2566
01:28:52,550 --> 01:28:44,800
the best

2567
01:28:53,910 --> 01:28:52,560
what are your guys thoughts on this too

2568
01:28:55,750 --> 01:28:53,920
we'll go around the room we'll give a

2569
01:28:57,350 --> 01:28:55,760
chance for everybody no no you're fine i

2570
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:57,360
just i really i was gonna i'm gonna ask

2571
01:29:00,149 --> 01:28:59,040
this question i'll even get rid of it

2572
01:29:01,350 --> 01:29:00,159
without it popping all this stuff up

2573
01:29:02,870 --> 01:29:01,360
it's i don't know why it's doing this

2574
01:29:04,950 --> 01:29:02,880
but let's switch over to this video

2575
01:29:07,590 --> 01:29:04,960
we'll start with josh and artemis on

2576
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:07,600
this one what are your guys's thoughts

2577
01:29:10,790 --> 01:29:09,520
on the whole idea of the micro in the

2578
01:29:12,790 --> 01:29:10,800
macro

2579
01:29:15,189 --> 01:29:12,800
do you think you remember in men in

2580
01:29:17,669 --> 01:29:15,199
black when they would open the little

2581
01:29:18,790 --> 01:29:17,679
like the the little uh locker remember

2582
01:29:20,310 --> 01:29:18,800
and whoever they seen again was like

2583
01:29:22,149 --> 01:29:20,320
their new god do you remember that part

2584
01:29:24,629 --> 01:29:22,159
yeah like a little wilderness yeah and

2585
01:29:27,110 --> 01:29:24,639
in the marvel do you think

2586
01:29:28,550 --> 01:29:27,120
if if we we agree we seem to all agree

2587
01:29:30,070 --> 01:29:28,560
that science tells us that the universe

2588
01:29:31,830 --> 01:29:30,080
is ever expanding

2589
01:29:33,270 --> 01:29:31,840
does that mean that there's got to be

2590
01:29:35,350 --> 01:29:33,280
the converse is true that if there's a

2591
01:29:36,950 --> 01:29:35,360
spot that's ever shrinking and if so

2592
01:29:38,470 --> 01:29:36,960
where are we caught in that like where

2593
01:29:40,629 --> 01:29:38,480
are we in the uh that's kind of some of

2594
01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:40,639
the stuff that lou is alluding to and

2595
01:29:44,709 --> 01:29:42,800
then in their show

2596
01:29:46,470 --> 01:29:44,719
like where are humans in in like the

2597
01:29:48,790 --> 01:29:46,480
food chain sort of thing way on the

2598
01:29:53,910 --> 01:29:48,800
outside yeah

2599
01:29:55,830 --> 01:29:53,920
yeah we're like so far down the i mean

2600
01:29:58,149 --> 01:29:55,840
if these beings do exist and they're

2601
01:29:59,430 --> 01:29:58,159
this advanced you know from from us then

2602
01:30:00,950 --> 01:29:59,440
yeah we're

2603
01:30:02,629 --> 01:30:00,960
we're so far down the food chain you

2604
01:30:04,950 --> 01:30:02,639
can't even see us anymore that's that's

2605
01:30:06,950 --> 01:30:04,960
how i see it but um

2606
01:30:08,310 --> 01:30:06,960
yeah i mean it's weird but

2607
01:30:09,750 --> 01:30:08,320
i don't know how to answer it you want

2608
01:30:11,750 --> 01:30:09,760
to speak willie but

2609
01:30:13,990 --> 01:30:11,760
the way i would say it would be yeah i

2610
01:30:15,270 --> 01:30:14,000
mean we're not top of the food chain

2611
01:30:17,189 --> 01:30:15,280
if these things are

2612
01:30:19,110 --> 01:30:17,199
fair enough all right mr crowley what do

2613
01:30:21,830 --> 01:30:19,120
you think about us being this micro

2614
01:30:24,790 --> 01:30:21,840
macro situation same thing i mean we are

2615
01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:24,800
so out from the big bang that

2616
01:30:30,629 --> 01:30:28,159
it's we're pretty much nothing i mean

2617
01:30:32,149 --> 01:30:30,639
we're we're infants

2618
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:32,159
if even that

2619
01:30:37,590 --> 01:30:35,360
compared to the galactic universe

2620
01:30:39,990 --> 01:30:37,600
interesting all right michael what about

2621
01:30:41,669 --> 01:30:40,000
yourself what are your thoughts on this

2622
01:30:43,750 --> 01:30:41,679
okay one more time please the micro

2623
01:30:45,510 --> 01:30:43,760
macro yeah so the idea that if if the

2624
01:30:46,870 --> 01:30:45,520
universe is ever expanding right if it's

2625
01:30:49,990 --> 01:30:46,880
ever growing

2626
01:30:51,430 --> 01:30:50,000
then wouldn't it also make sense and

2627
01:30:53,189 --> 01:30:51,440
we've kind of been taught that there's

2628
01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:53,199
balance and everything that if there's

2629
01:30:55,669 --> 01:30:54,480
something that's ever expanding then

2630
01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:55,679
there has to be something that's

2631
01:30:58,229 --> 01:30:57,120
collapsing at the same rate there has to

2632
01:30:59,270 --> 01:30:58,239
be something that's consistently

2633
01:31:00,629 --> 01:30:59,280
shrinking

2634
01:31:02,870 --> 01:31:00,639
but you wouldn't really know if you were

2635
01:31:04,870 --> 01:31:02,880
part of that you know an organism that

2636
01:31:07,750 --> 01:31:04,880
exists in your body doesn't know i mean

2637
01:31:09,910 --> 01:31:07,760
how microscopic it is

2638
01:31:11,990 --> 01:31:09,920
the best way i could figure is like you

2639
01:31:15,350 --> 01:31:12,000
know they think maybe we're copying like

2640
01:31:17,270 --> 01:31:15,360
those other earths with our dimension

2641
01:31:19,189 --> 01:31:17,280
but also

2642
01:31:21,110 --> 01:31:19,199
i believe in god you know i've read the

2643
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:21,120
bible ever since i was a kid i've read

2644
01:31:25,910 --> 01:31:23,040
the whole thing from beginning to end

2645
01:31:28,310 --> 01:31:25,920
like the children's bible adult bible

2646
01:31:31,669 --> 01:31:28,320
and i believe you know what they say is

2647
01:31:33,990 --> 01:31:31,679
like basically most of it is true about

2648
01:31:36,310 --> 01:31:34,000
that word we're created in god's image

2649
01:31:38,390 --> 01:31:36,320
so god is the creator then we are also

2650
01:31:40,709 --> 01:31:38,400
part of that the creator

2651
01:31:41,510 --> 01:31:40,719
and also i think science could you know

2652
01:31:44,310 --> 01:31:41,520
what

2653
01:31:45,510 --> 01:31:44,320
now is quantum entanglement right it's

2654
01:31:47,510 --> 01:31:45,520
kind of

2655
01:31:50,550 --> 01:31:47,520
could all be quantum entangled to every

2656
01:31:53,590 --> 01:31:50,560
single part of the universe

2657
01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:53,600
so yeah i mean and also like

2658
01:31:57,510 --> 01:31:56,000
i because even on dc i watch out of dc

2659
01:31:59,430 --> 01:31:57,520
and marvel there's a lot of copies of

2660
01:32:01,590 --> 01:31:59,440
our earth

2661
01:32:03,750 --> 01:32:01,600
the idea of being after the big bang

2662
01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:03,760
everything just happens exactly the same

2663
01:32:08,390 --> 01:32:06,880
like a circle just over and over so

2664
01:32:10,550 --> 01:32:08,400
truth's really kind of hard to say

2665
01:32:13,669 --> 01:32:10,560
exactly what or where is the beginning

2666
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:13,679
oh agreed 100 on that part exactly where

2667
01:32:16,950 --> 01:32:15,520
consciousness will go

2668
01:32:19,350 --> 01:32:16,960
because right we could have

2669
01:32:21,590 --> 01:32:19,360
consciousness into art you know they say

2670
01:32:24,550 --> 01:32:21,600
like a molecule exploded into 13

2671
01:32:27,030 --> 01:32:24,560
particles so there's like 13 dimensions

2672
01:32:29,110 --> 01:32:27,040
right here next to us

2673
01:32:30,550 --> 01:32:29,120
we never i'm going to say it that's the

2674
01:32:31,430 --> 01:32:30,560
fascinating stuff to speculate and

2675
01:32:32,390 --> 01:32:31,440
that's why i always love going around

2676
01:32:33,350 --> 01:32:32,400
the room and getting everybody's opinion

2677
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:33,360
on this so

2678
01:32:37,030 --> 01:32:35,360
uh legion what are your thoughts on this

2679
01:32:38,550 --> 01:32:37,040
i guess this what we're discussing this

2680
01:32:40,390 --> 01:32:38,560
is this is probably going to be a little

2681
01:32:42,390 --> 01:32:40,400
bit new territory for

2682
01:32:43,910 --> 01:32:42,400
this type audience but oh that's okay

2683
01:32:45,270 --> 01:32:43,920
that's what we're here for let me let me

2684
01:32:47,510 --> 01:32:45,280
let me walk you through a little bit of

2685
01:32:49,030 --> 01:32:47,520
time travel on this bring the [\h__\h] on

2686
01:32:52,229 --> 01:32:49,040
brother so

2687
01:32:54,790 --> 01:32:52,239
the universe is expanding and putting

2688
01:32:57,669 --> 01:32:54,800
more space between

2689
01:32:59,669 --> 01:32:57,679
every celestial object

2690
01:33:03,590 --> 01:32:59,679
at an ever increasing rate but this was

2691
01:33:05,669 --> 01:33:03,600
brought on by the big bang itself

2692
01:33:06,950 --> 01:33:05,679
and if you go back to the big bang to

2693
01:33:09,430 --> 01:33:06,960
that point

2694
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:09,440
of singularity at the moment before the

2695
01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:10,800
explosion

2696
01:33:17,110 --> 01:33:13,040
everything that would come into being in

2697
01:33:19,270 --> 01:33:17,120
this universe was one single thing

2698
01:33:20,870 --> 01:33:19,280
it all existed as one thing

2699
01:33:23,110 --> 01:33:20,880
and if we go back to the discussion on

2700
01:33:26,070 --> 01:33:23,120
quantum entanglement

2701
01:33:28,070 --> 01:33:26,080
things that come from the same thing are

2702
01:33:30,629 --> 01:33:28,080
still the same thing even if they're in

2703
01:33:33,110 --> 01:33:30,639
two different places

2704
01:33:36,070 --> 01:33:33,120
so as your consciousness grows and you

2705
01:33:38,149 --> 01:33:36,080
understand more about the universe you

2706
01:33:40,790 --> 01:33:38,159
don't just see the connections between

2707
01:33:43,430 --> 01:33:40,800
other humans that are in this world

2708
01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:43,440
because every carbon molecule that's in

2709
01:33:47,110 --> 01:33:45,040
your body and everything else was

2710
01:33:48,870 --> 01:33:47,120
ejected by a dying star millions of

2711
01:33:51,510 --> 01:33:48,880
years ago so we're all composed from the

2712
01:33:53,030 --> 01:33:51,520
same star stuff from the same stars

2713
01:33:56,950 --> 01:33:53,040
you start seeing beyond that and

2714
01:33:59,510 --> 01:33:56,960
realizing that everything on the planet

2715
01:34:02,470 --> 01:33:59,520
is entangled because it was all the same

2716
01:34:05,910 --> 01:34:02,480
thing every person is connected every

2717
01:34:07,990 --> 01:34:05,920
planet every solar system every galaxy

2718
01:34:08,709 --> 01:34:08,000
is still connected

2719
01:34:11,270 --> 01:34:08,719
so

2720
01:34:12,550 --> 01:34:11,280
that growing consciousness on the macro

2721
01:34:14,550 --> 01:34:12,560
scale

2722
01:34:18,070 --> 01:34:14,560
gives you the macro vision to see that

2723
01:34:19,030 --> 01:34:18,080
there is no distance between anything

2724
01:34:22,629 --> 01:34:19,040
i think

2725
01:34:24,550 --> 01:34:22,639
vibrational

2726
01:34:25,830 --> 01:34:24,560
difference

2727
01:34:29,669 --> 01:34:25,840
i think we've

2728
01:34:31,430 --> 01:34:29,679
vibrationally kind of separated

2729
01:34:32,550 --> 01:34:31,440
could be yeah

2730
01:34:34,790 --> 01:34:32,560
yeah

2731
01:34:36,950 --> 01:34:34,800
and i mean i've heard you know the way

2732
01:34:39,110 --> 01:34:36,960
of like transitioning those things is

2733
01:34:41,109 --> 01:34:39,120
actually knowing them

2734
01:34:43,590 --> 01:34:41,119
so maybe we're getting at that point

2735
01:34:47,189 --> 01:34:43,600
where collectively we could all know

2736
01:34:52,629 --> 01:34:49,990
our vibration is coming into contact

2737
01:34:54,470 --> 01:34:52,639
with the rest of everything else

2738
01:34:56,070 --> 01:34:54,480
this ought to be a fun way to ask then

2739
01:35:02,870 --> 01:34:56,080
sunny what are your thoughts on

2740
01:35:07,590 --> 01:35:04,629
i don't know about that but what i think

2741
01:35:11,109 --> 01:35:09,189
when i think about this stuff dude i

2742
01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:11,119
think like if the aliens come here now

2743
01:35:16,229 --> 01:35:14,400
and they see us the way we are now and

2744
01:35:16,950 --> 01:35:16,239
they're so much more advanced than we

2745
01:35:18,550 --> 01:35:16,960
are

2746
01:35:21,030 --> 01:35:18,560
it's gonna be like if we could time

2747
01:35:24,149 --> 01:35:21,040
travel back into time and spend time

2748
01:35:25,830 --> 01:35:24,159
with caveman that that's how far behind

2749
01:35:27,030 --> 01:35:25,840
we're basically gonna be behind them we

2750
01:35:29,510 --> 01:35:27,040
might be able to know how to read and

2751
01:35:31,109 --> 01:35:29,520
write but if you're not doing it like

2752
01:35:32,310 --> 01:35:31,119
them you're still far behind them like

2753
01:35:33,830 --> 01:35:32,320
if you crazy

2754
01:35:35,109 --> 01:35:33,840
if you can't write their language we're

2755
01:35:36,470 --> 01:35:35,119
still going to be

2756
01:35:38,709 --> 01:35:36,480
we're basically cavemen they're going to

2757
01:35:41,350 --> 01:35:38,719
have to learn everything that they know

2758
01:35:43,270 --> 01:35:41,360
i mean what if we are the live

2759
01:35:45,750 --> 01:35:43,280
like psychics or certain people that

2760
01:35:48,149 --> 01:35:45,760
actually practice that you know

2761
01:35:50,470 --> 01:35:48,159
could possibly get

2762
01:35:52,070 --> 01:35:50,480
what if we do try to be like the aliens

2763
01:35:54,149 --> 01:35:52,080
here on earth i'm just wondering if

2764
01:35:55,430 --> 01:35:54,159
we're capable of that thought our

2765
01:35:57,590 --> 01:35:55,440
vibration

2766
01:35:59,030 --> 01:35:57,600
we are capable we just choose not to

2767
01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:59,040
acknowledge it

2768
01:36:02,390 --> 01:36:00,480
yep

2769
01:36:03,910 --> 01:36:02,400
so how much is that though do you guys

2770
01:36:04,870 --> 01:36:03,920
think and i guess i'll go back this way

2771
01:36:06,629 --> 01:36:04,880
since we're going around a little bit

2772
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:06,639
it's a little weird now as i say i feel

2773
01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:08,159
bad if i'm like i don't even think i'm

2774
01:36:11,030 --> 01:36:09,360
cutting anybody out on their what

2775
01:36:12,550 --> 01:36:11,040
they're saying but what do we think of

2776
01:36:13,750 --> 01:36:12,560
that far as what you said mr qualifiers

2777
01:36:15,430 --> 01:36:13,760
that's being

2778
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:15,440
uh able to do that

2779
01:36:18,310 --> 01:36:17,040
but choosing not to how much of this is

2780
01:36:19,669 --> 01:36:18,320
choosing not to and how much of that's

2781
01:36:21,270 --> 01:36:19,679
just been suppressed through ancient

2782
01:36:23,189 --> 01:36:21,280
history we're scared of what we don't

2783
01:36:26,950 --> 01:36:23,199
know

2784
01:36:29,510 --> 01:36:26,960
don't understand

2785
01:36:31,750 --> 01:36:29,520
and that's the two most simplest answers

2786
01:36:33,350 --> 01:36:31,760
i can give you i mean it's i you know

2787
01:36:35,189 --> 01:36:33,360
i've started up buddhism and everything

2788
01:36:36,149 --> 01:36:35,199
else and i've seen things in a different

2789
01:36:38,629 --> 01:36:36,159
light

2790
01:36:39,750 --> 01:36:38,639
and it's

2791
01:36:41,910 --> 01:36:39,760
i've

2792
01:36:43,270 --> 01:36:41,920
kind of come to learn to accept things

2793
01:36:45,590 --> 01:36:43,280
in a different way

2794
01:36:47,510 --> 01:36:45,600
and i just think that we shut ourselves

2795
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:47,520
off

2796
01:36:51,350 --> 01:36:49,520
you know on different levels of

2797
01:36:52,790 --> 01:36:51,360
mentality different levels of

2798
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:52,800
understanding

2799
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,840
and just a plethora of different levels

2800
01:37:00,149 --> 01:36:57,360
you know and i think if we open

2801
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:00,159
ourselves up to these levels and to

2802
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:04,080
understanding and acceptance that

2803
01:37:09,910 --> 01:37:07,600
we'll be able to see it eventually

2804
01:37:12,229 --> 01:37:09,920
you know i don't i don't see

2805
01:37:15,109 --> 01:37:12,239
what i believe in as being a terrestrial

2806
01:37:16,950 --> 01:37:15,119
thing i see it as being a

2807
01:37:18,790 --> 01:37:16,960
you know spiritual thing

2808
01:37:20,470 --> 01:37:18,800
and i think

2809
01:37:22,070 --> 01:37:20,480
you don't think any part of history has

2810
01:37:23,910 --> 01:37:22,080
suppressed the knowledge that maybe we

2811
01:37:25,830 --> 01:37:23,920
once possessed or even other entities

2812
01:37:27,270 --> 01:37:25,840
that existed here on earth with us do

2813
01:37:29,350 --> 01:37:27,280
you really want me against that do you

2814
01:37:31,590 --> 01:37:29,360
really want me to get started on that

2815
01:37:32,950 --> 01:37:31,600
i believe i think listen i mean i i'm

2816
01:37:34,229 --> 01:37:32,960
genuinely curious about it i don't think

2817
01:37:36,390 --> 01:37:34,239
it's you bring up a good point i think

2818
01:37:38,310 --> 01:37:36,400
people are nervous but i don't think

2819
01:37:39,669 --> 01:37:38,320
it's i think that's a that's top

2820
01:37:41,830 --> 01:37:39,679
behavior i don't think that's something

2821
01:37:43,669 --> 01:37:41,840
that was just innately boring technology

2822
01:37:46,550 --> 01:37:43,679
was magic

2823
01:37:50,390 --> 01:37:46,560
200 years ago 300 years ago 500 years

2824
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:50,400
ago 100 years ago technology was magic

2825
01:37:56,470 --> 01:37:53,199
you know and that's what we considered

2826
01:37:58,709 --> 01:37:56,480
it so what do we consider magic now

2827
01:38:00,229 --> 01:37:58,719
what will technology be 100 years from

2828
01:38:02,870 --> 01:38:00,239
now

2829
01:38:04,550 --> 01:38:02,880
what don't we understand or don't we

2830
01:38:07,109 --> 01:38:04,560
comprehend and

2831
01:38:09,189 --> 01:38:07,119
just what are we capable of

2832
01:38:10,470 --> 01:38:09,199
you know just in the last 100 years what

2833
01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:10,480
have we done

2834
01:38:17,510 --> 01:38:15,510
what are yours and uh josh's thoughts on

2835
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:17,520
this art as far as the the ancient

2836
01:38:21,669 --> 01:38:19,600
cultures and some of these you know

2837
01:38:23,750 --> 01:38:21,679
megalithic structures that exist and

2838
01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:23,760
seeing what we believe to have possibly

2839
01:38:26,709 --> 01:38:24,960
been some of the ways it could have been

2840
01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:26,719
created do you think that

2841
01:38:29,430 --> 01:38:28,080
it's just simply they were that much

2842
01:38:31,109 --> 01:38:29,440
more advanced

2843
01:38:33,990 --> 01:38:31,119
or that

2844
01:38:35,109 --> 01:38:34,000
you just forgot it

2845
01:38:37,430 --> 01:38:35,119
ah

2846
01:38:40,310 --> 01:38:37,440
it's hard because some of these

2847
01:38:42,470 --> 01:38:40,320
things like the pyramids i still can't

2848
01:38:43,270 --> 01:38:42,480
understand how we could have created

2849
01:38:46,790 --> 01:38:43,280
them

2850
01:38:48,070 --> 01:38:46,800
you know at least without some help

2851
01:38:50,629 --> 01:38:48,080
um

2852
01:38:52,229 --> 01:38:50,639
but i mean do i actually know that no of

2853
01:38:54,870 --> 01:38:52,239
course not it's just

2854
01:38:56,830 --> 01:38:54,880
when you look at it and

2855
01:39:00,390 --> 01:38:56,840
you start to understand

2856
01:39:02,310 --> 01:39:00,400
the like the math and the uh

2857
01:39:05,109 --> 01:39:02,320
that they used and also just looking at

2858
01:39:07,910 --> 01:39:06,550
oh my gosh

2859
01:39:10,790 --> 01:39:07,920
for just a second i'll make sure he's

2860
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:18,870
like

2861
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:20,149
sorry about that you got a really good

2862
01:39:24,390 --> 01:39:21,440
mic and it was like

2863
01:39:37,910 --> 01:39:24,400
sorry i know it's because i got cold and

2864
01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:41,669
but

2865
01:39:44,709 --> 01:39:43,270
um

2866
01:39:45,590 --> 01:39:44,719
yeah i mean i

2867
01:39:47,030 --> 01:39:45,600
like

2868
01:39:48,709 --> 01:39:47,040
i think we were talking about this i

2869
01:39:50,550 --> 01:39:48,719
think probably like in the last week

2870
01:39:52,629 --> 01:39:50,560
like if we could time travel to a

2871
01:39:54,709 --> 01:39:52,639
different time it would be to see how

2872
01:40:00,229 --> 01:39:54,719
the pyramids were even built

2873
01:40:05,750 --> 01:40:03,669
comment but yeah um

2874
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:05,760
because a lot of these ancient

2875
01:40:09,830 --> 01:40:07,679
structures they

2876
01:40:11,590 --> 01:40:09,840
i don't know they're just so magnificent

2877
01:40:13,030 --> 01:40:11,600
really and

2878
01:40:14,790 --> 01:40:13,040
um

2879
01:40:16,390 --> 01:40:14,800
yeah i'm i'm fascinated by it but i

2880
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:16,400
don't have a lot of knowledge and

2881
01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:17,840
understanding of it

2882
01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:19,760
either i tend to agree because i've

2883
01:40:24,390 --> 01:40:21,920
basically seen every episode of ancient

2884
01:40:26,070 --> 01:40:24,400
aliens and it's all the proof is there

2885
01:40:27,030 --> 01:40:26,080
you know like you could watch that i

2886
01:40:29,750 --> 01:40:27,040
feel and

2887
01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:29,760
the history channel is official

2888
01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:31,520
so

2889
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:33,760
i'm just saying as far as that goes

2890
01:40:38,709 --> 01:40:36,880
everybody you know knows about it sadly

2891
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:38,719
yeah you don't want to give me snow down

2892
01:40:43,669 --> 01:40:41,840
ancient aliens you all hate me

2893
01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:43,679
does anyone know how long ago it was

2894
01:40:47,669 --> 01:40:45,119
that they just barely figured out that

2895
01:40:49,510 --> 01:40:47,679
the sphinx isn't it isn't it buried and

2896
01:40:50,310 --> 01:40:49,520
we were just seeing the top of it yeah i

2897
01:40:54,629 --> 01:40:50,320
mean

2898
01:40:56,070 --> 01:40:54,639
it was underwater then the pyramids yes

2899
01:40:58,070 --> 01:40:56,080
or the fact that they might have chipped

2900
01:40:59,990 --> 01:40:58,080
away the face and it was already yeah

2901
01:41:01,510 --> 01:41:00,000
somebody thought the space of the sphinx

2902
01:41:03,430 --> 01:41:01,520
has been changed loads of times it

2903
01:41:06,390 --> 01:41:03,440
hasn't been what i've what i understand

2904
01:41:09,109 --> 01:41:06,400
i think it's it it's it's constantly in

2905
01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:09,119
the it or it was constantly in in a

2906
01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:11,199
period of change and there's

2907
01:41:15,430 --> 01:41:13,199
and i think i think you touch that

2908
01:41:17,750 --> 01:41:15,440
they're sunny about the sphinx and

2909
01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:17,760
they did some work on the sphinx and

2910
01:41:22,550 --> 01:41:19,840
found out there was like water erosion

2911
01:41:23,830 --> 01:41:22,560
at the bottom exactly there was water

2912
01:41:26,550 --> 01:41:23,840
like thousands

2913
01:41:29,270 --> 01:41:26,560
before yeah they saying so it's the

2914
01:41:31,109 --> 01:41:29,280
whole timeline is completely messed you

2915
01:41:32,709 --> 01:41:31,119
know it's not even that that timeline is

2916
01:41:34,629 --> 01:41:32,719
completely wrong yeah

2917
01:41:36,629 --> 01:41:34,639
yeah well it's like who figured out

2918
01:41:37,990 --> 01:41:36,639
carbon dating yeah

2919
01:41:40,550 --> 01:41:38,000
you know what i mean you figured it out

2920
01:41:42,470 --> 01:41:40,560
and who determined what was what

2921
01:41:45,109 --> 01:41:42,480
you know does that make it right

2922
01:41:47,590 --> 01:41:45,119
does that make it exact yeah

2923
01:41:49,510 --> 01:41:47,600
you know so it's just you know one of

2924
01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:49,520
the many things that

2925
01:41:54,229 --> 01:41:51,679
you know we've come up with and just

2926
01:41:56,550 --> 01:41:54,239
kind of accepted and okay

2927
01:41:57,669 --> 01:41:56,560
accepted because we have no better

2928
01:41:59,669 --> 01:41:57,679
knowledge

2929
01:42:01,910 --> 01:41:59,679
no more understanding

2930
01:42:03,750 --> 01:42:01,920
one other part i think is cool is the

2931
01:42:05,830 --> 01:42:03,760
there's a curse right the person who

2932
01:42:07,830 --> 01:42:05,840
originally well no i'm sorry i mixed the

2933
01:42:08,629 --> 01:42:07,840
the egyptians the ones who found king

2934
01:42:11,590 --> 01:42:08,639
tut

2935
01:42:15,109 --> 01:42:13,350
yeah that guy didn't he

2936
01:42:17,109 --> 01:42:15,119
didn't he passed away just like a month

2937
01:42:19,750 --> 01:42:17,119
after he opened that tomb so he got

2938
01:42:23,590 --> 01:42:22,310
well i went on this kind of rabbit hole

2939
01:42:26,149 --> 01:42:23,600
with the whole

2940
01:42:28,870 --> 01:42:26,159
sphinx and the whole pyramid thing to

2941
01:42:31,270 --> 01:42:28,880
where they were actually storage units

2942
01:42:34,149 --> 01:42:31,280
kind of like we do in in the

2943
01:42:35,910 --> 01:42:34,159
you know arctic regions with our seeds

2944
01:42:39,669 --> 01:42:35,920
and what have you seen

2945
01:42:42,709 --> 01:42:39,679
exceed bolts and the sphinxes or the

2946
01:42:45,189 --> 01:42:42,719
pyramids were storage units because they

2947
01:42:47,189 --> 01:42:45,199
knew a great flood was coming

2948
01:42:48,709 --> 01:42:47,199
and they knew we were going to lose all

2949
01:42:50,229 --> 01:42:48,719
of our you know

2950
01:42:52,550 --> 01:42:50,239
education they knew we were going to

2951
01:42:55,430 --> 01:42:52,560
lose all of our seeds all of our you

2952
01:42:57,030 --> 01:42:55,440
know history and they stuff them into

2953
01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:57,040
the pyramids

2954
01:43:00,629 --> 01:42:58,560
as protection

2955
01:43:03,109 --> 01:43:00,639
against a great flood so that we didn't

2956
01:43:05,350 --> 01:43:03,119
have to start over from scratch again so

2957
01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:05,360
we have something to go back to and

2958
01:43:08,870 --> 01:43:07,119
relate to and start from that point

2959
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:08,880
forward

2960
01:43:16,390 --> 01:43:14,470
i just was trying to say i think they

2961
01:43:17,990 --> 01:43:16,400
did a better job at is that uh is that

2962
01:43:19,590 --> 01:43:18,000
go back lee tapley i always say it wrong

2963
01:43:22,310 --> 01:43:19,600
but yeah like they they

2964
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:22,320
really preserve that so well i found

2965
01:43:26,070 --> 01:43:23,760
another site as well i think it's the

2966
01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:26,080
sister site which is even older than

2967
01:43:30,709 --> 01:43:28,800
that one yeah it's crazy

2968
01:43:32,790 --> 01:43:30,719
yeah how about the fights here that they

2969
01:43:33,990 --> 01:43:32,800
say they find egypt's stuff like in the

2970
01:43:35,030 --> 01:43:34,000
grand canyon

2971
01:43:37,669 --> 01:43:35,040
canyon

2972
01:43:38,709 --> 01:43:37,679
that is crazy absolutely find that stuff

2973
01:43:40,070 --> 01:43:38,719
here

2974
01:43:41,510 --> 01:43:40,080
wow

2975
01:43:43,990 --> 01:43:41,520
we don't know there's like so much we

2976
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:44,000
don't know about all these ancient

2977
01:43:48,229 --> 01:43:45,840
cultures and history and like the

2978
01:43:49,830 --> 01:43:48,239
timeline of how we actually got here is

2979
01:43:51,270 --> 01:43:49,840
not even the timeline you know so

2980
01:43:53,430 --> 01:43:51,280
there's so much we need to learn about

2981
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:53,440
that well then you've got historians and

2982
01:43:57,109 --> 01:43:54,719
you've got scientists that are

2983
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:57,119
embarrassed to say yeah we [\h__\h] up

2984
01:44:01,590 --> 01:43:59,280
yeah you know we don't you know you know

2985
01:44:03,669 --> 01:44:01,600
rather just know the truth but you know

2986
01:44:04,830 --> 01:44:03,679
but the simple fact is is are you going

2987
01:44:07,109 --> 01:44:04,840
to protect your

2988
01:44:09,030 --> 01:44:07,119
job you know what i mean yeah there's

2989
01:44:11,830 --> 01:44:09,040
always politics you figure once they

2990
01:44:13,350 --> 01:44:11,840
wrote it it's history and to rewrite it

2991
01:44:14,390 --> 01:44:13,360
it's just that

2992
01:44:15,910 --> 01:44:14,400
i wasn't laughing at you michael i

2993
01:44:17,830 --> 01:44:15,920
apologize i was laughing at the chat and

2994
01:44:20,629 --> 01:44:17,840
gordium was saying i need to bury my vhs

2995
01:44:22,390 --> 01:44:20,639
collection to preserve it no

2996
01:44:25,510 --> 01:44:22,400
you don't need to we're always going to

2997
01:44:29,030 --> 01:44:26,790
there it is

2998
01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:29,040
here we go

2999
01:44:33,430 --> 01:44:31,679
i started it or gort started it i don't

3000
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:33,440
know who started it

3001
01:44:36,390 --> 01:44:35,440
runs here what's up ren

3002
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:36,400
um

3003
01:44:40,470 --> 01:44:38,159
you know i mean i was gonna say didn't

3004
01:44:42,950 --> 01:44:40,480
they think too it was underwater

3005
01:44:44,470 --> 01:44:42,960
classic ufo garage right there was water

3006
01:44:48,870 --> 01:44:44,480
at that time and

3007
01:44:51,189 --> 01:44:48,880
it was like some sort of like generator

3008
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:51,199
far as over there in uh are you talking

3009
01:44:54,870 --> 01:44:52,480
about in egypt

3010
01:44:56,470 --> 01:44:54,880
yeah ancient egypt yeah oh man there's

3011
01:44:58,229 --> 01:44:56,480
all kinds of hypothesis you know some

3012
01:45:00,709 --> 01:44:58,239
people talked about there used to be

3013
01:45:03,189 --> 01:45:00,719
plated in uh oh what was it like the the

3014
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:03,199
brass or something there was there was

3015
01:45:08,149 --> 01:45:06,159
those canisters that they got i can't

3016
01:45:09,830 --> 01:45:08,159
remember the name of it i feel stupid

3017
01:45:13,430 --> 01:45:09,840
but there was those canisters that were

3018
01:45:17,109 --> 01:45:14,629
do you know what i'm talking about

3019
01:45:18,629 --> 01:45:17,119
anybody

3020
01:45:20,229 --> 01:45:18,639
canister remember the piece that went at

3021
01:45:21,350 --> 01:45:20,239
the top to harness it that was all i

3022
01:45:22,629 --> 01:45:21,360
remember

3023
01:45:24,470 --> 01:45:22,639
no they had uh

3024
01:45:27,030 --> 01:45:24,480
what do they call them baghdad batteries

3025
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:41,189
batteries

3026
01:45:41,199 --> 01:45:44,629
i love it so much

3027
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:46,870
i'm sorry listen i always say i'm not

3028
01:45:50,470 --> 01:45:49,119
i'm not smart on this stuff okay but

3029
01:45:52,790 --> 01:45:50,480
with uh

3030
01:45:55,189 --> 01:45:52,800
she's got a camel bear that's true that

3031
01:45:57,669 --> 01:45:55,199
is true we know why i can't say live on

3032
01:45:58,790 --> 01:45:57,679
here why but you know why you know why

3033
01:46:01,780 --> 01:45:58,800
it's that way

3034
01:46:06,390 --> 01:46:01,790
um so i'm gonna say it's alien

3035
01:46:08,790 --> 01:46:06,400
[Laughter]

3036
01:46:11,189 --> 01:46:08,800
the fact that the oldest pyramids were

3037
01:46:13,030 --> 01:46:11,199
built the most precise and then they

3038
01:46:14,629 --> 01:46:13,040
progressively got worse

3039
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:14,639
you know that's so strange too that we

3040
01:46:17,350 --> 01:46:16,000
didn't you normally when we build

3041
01:46:19,910 --> 01:46:17,360
something we build it and we get better

3042
01:46:20,870 --> 01:46:19,920
and better yeah and that's where i kind

3043
01:46:22,870 --> 01:46:20,880
of what i was trying to allude to

3044
01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:22,880
earlier mr crowley far is

3045
01:46:28,390 --> 01:46:25,600
us having more skills than we realize

3046
01:46:30,550 --> 01:46:28,400
i truly and this is william's old wild

3047
01:46:32,310 --> 01:46:30,560
conspiracy truly believed that there was

3048
01:46:34,390 --> 01:46:32,320
a point where we did understand a lot

3049
01:46:36,709 --> 01:46:34,400
more as a civilization

3050
01:46:37,750 --> 01:46:36,719
and some entity or some force of some

3051
01:46:39,669 --> 01:46:37,760
sort

3052
01:46:41,750 --> 01:46:39,679
did not appreciate that and did shut

3053
01:46:43,109 --> 01:46:41,760
that down and i i

3054
01:46:45,350 --> 01:46:43,119
joe and ben have talked about this even

3055
01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:45,360
on here before saying what if

3056
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:47,920
there is a society that somehow got

3057
01:46:51,510 --> 01:46:49,360
ahead a little bit

3058
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:51,520
talking about you other humans

3059
01:46:55,510 --> 01:46:52,560
a couple families they got together

3060
01:46:57,189 --> 01:46:55,520
whatever and got ahead by say 50 to 100

3061
01:46:58,790 --> 01:46:57,199
years at a certain point like you were

3062
01:47:00,470 --> 01:46:58,800
saying mr bali technology would just

3063
01:47:02,950 --> 01:47:00,480
appear as magic

3064
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:02,960
what if there is a group of people that

3065
01:47:07,270 --> 01:47:05,040
completely rewrote history as we know it

3066
01:47:09,350 --> 01:47:07,280
all together it only take about three

3067
01:47:10,870 --> 01:47:09,360
generations and it's just gone

3068
01:47:12,709 --> 01:47:10,880
i mean the fact that everything's giants

3069
01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:12,719
or a joke do you guys if i ask you right

3070
01:47:15,830 --> 01:47:14,320
now like do you believe in giants you

3071
01:47:16,709 --> 01:47:15,840
would what do you think first of all

3072
01:47:20,070 --> 01:47:16,719
let's throw it out do you believe in

3073
01:47:21,669 --> 01:47:20,080
giants show of hands yes we just had um

3074
01:47:22,470 --> 01:47:21,679
that was a great interview though by the

3075
01:47:24,390 --> 01:47:22,480
way

3076
01:47:25,270 --> 01:47:24,400
hugh newman you need to check that out

3077
01:47:27,590 --> 01:47:25,280
he's

3078
01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:27,600
such a cool guy we interviewed him and

3079
01:47:32,870 --> 01:47:29,760
he's um

3080
01:47:34,790 --> 01:47:32,880
yeah we we we talked about megalithic

3081
01:47:36,070 --> 01:47:34,800
giants and um

3082
01:47:37,750 --> 01:47:36,080
some of the history of it and it was

3083
01:47:40,149 --> 01:47:37,760
really cool we definitely want to talk

3084
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:40,159
to him again though but yeah definitely

3085
01:47:45,189 --> 01:47:42,080
um there's a lot of evidence

3086
01:47:46,550 --> 01:47:45,199
around it which was a bit surprising

3087
01:47:49,030 --> 01:47:46,560
like

3088
01:47:51,830 --> 01:47:49,040
how much there is and how it's i feel

3089
01:47:53,510 --> 01:47:51,840
like it's never talked about yeah i know

3090
01:47:55,430 --> 01:47:53,520
or at least not given the attention it

3091
01:47:58,229 --> 01:47:55,440
really deserves yeah and that's what

3092
01:48:01,270 --> 01:47:58,239
bothers me is it the smithsonian has the

3093
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:01,280
receipts they have the receipts to show

3094
01:48:06,229 --> 01:48:03,360
that they had the stuff and they're like

3095
01:48:08,709 --> 01:48:06,239
well sorry bro no deposit on this one

3096
01:48:12,870 --> 01:48:08,719
like they just lost it

3097
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:12,880
the simpson okay we're getting out there

3098
01:48:16,870 --> 01:48:14,719
made an episode on this them

3099
01:48:18,790 --> 01:48:16,880
accidentally burning that boat down part

3100
01:48:19,669 --> 01:48:18,800
of the galactic federation if there is

3101
01:48:22,310 --> 01:48:19,679
one

3102
01:48:23,830 --> 01:48:22,320
he's a time traveler

3103
01:48:25,910 --> 01:48:23,840
like that owner

3104
01:48:28,470 --> 01:48:25,920
i mean the creator of the show i swear

3105
01:48:33,350 --> 01:48:28,480
to god has like a

3106
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:33,360
a very like accurate crystal ball

3107
01:48:35,750 --> 01:48:34,080
yeah

3108
01:48:38,390 --> 01:48:35,760
this is where i

3109
01:48:40,950 --> 01:48:38,400
see that it's kind of like mythology i

3110
01:48:42,070 --> 01:48:40,960
see as a lie

3111
01:48:44,070 --> 01:48:42,080
truth

3112
01:48:47,669 --> 01:48:44,080
it's every lie

3113
01:48:50,470 --> 01:48:47,679
is based in some sort of truth yeah

3114
01:48:53,430 --> 01:48:50,480
and mythology is the same you know it

3115
01:48:55,830 --> 01:48:53,440
may not have evolved the way that it's

3116
01:48:57,990 --> 01:48:55,840
kind of like you know kind of like the

3117
01:48:59,350 --> 01:48:58,000
cafeteria thing to where i tell you

3118
01:49:01,109 --> 01:48:59,360
something you tell somebody else

3119
01:49:02,629 --> 01:49:01,119
something and they tell somebody else

3120
01:49:04,709 --> 01:49:02,639
something and it turns into a different

3121
01:49:07,430 --> 01:49:04,719
thing but it was based in some kind of

3122
01:49:09,270 --> 01:49:07,440
truth yeah yeah you know and that's how

3123
01:49:12,070 --> 01:49:09,280
i feel about mythology it was based on

3124
01:49:14,950 --> 01:49:12,080
some kind of truth ezekiel's wheel could

3125
01:49:17,350 --> 01:49:14,960
have been a ufo

3126
01:49:20,149 --> 01:49:17,360
i mean the bible gives exact talking

3127
01:49:22,870 --> 01:49:20,159
michael you talked about it

3128
01:49:25,270 --> 01:49:22,880
yeah it's all there in like you know

3129
01:49:27,430 --> 01:49:25,280
the early books for genesis and then

3130
01:49:29,270 --> 01:49:27,440
exodus

3131
01:49:32,229 --> 01:49:29,280
yeah to the point where they give exact

3132
01:49:34,149 --> 01:49:32,239
building dimensions of the craft you

3133
01:49:36,470 --> 01:49:34,159
know so it's like

3134
01:49:38,470 --> 01:49:36,480
even if you just look at the bible as

3135
01:49:39,990 --> 01:49:38,480
you know a historical piece of uh

3136
01:49:41,510 --> 01:49:40,000
evidence whether it's not religious here

3137
01:49:42,390 --> 01:49:41,520
whatever it might be it's at least the

3138
01:49:45,189 --> 01:49:42,400
unique

3139
01:49:47,270 --> 01:49:45,199
although heavily altered

3140
01:49:49,669 --> 01:49:47,280
i mean come on 160 bucks to start with

3141
01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:49,679
166 basically the best way i can

3142
01:49:54,390 --> 01:49:51,840
remember it as a kid is it was like the

3143
01:49:56,390 --> 01:49:54,400
angels came down they mixed with humans

3144
01:49:58,229 --> 01:49:56,400
and had like the x-men

3145
01:49:59,990 --> 01:49:58,239
there was all these people on earth with

3146
01:50:01,750 --> 01:50:00,000
different powers

3147
01:50:03,669 --> 01:50:01,760
and then god thought that that was too

3148
01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:03,679
crazy that's not what he wanted earth to

3149
01:50:07,270 --> 01:50:04,480
be

3150
01:50:08,790 --> 01:50:07,280
so he ended it with the flood and noah's

3151
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:08,800
ark

3152
01:50:12,810 --> 01:50:11,040
and because he mistimed the meteor and

3153
01:50:14,310 --> 01:50:12,820
killed the dinosaurs

3154
01:50:17,350 --> 01:50:14,320
[Music]

3155
01:50:21,589 --> 01:50:19,750
there's a move about that

3156
01:50:27,030 --> 01:50:21,599
basically it's like

3157
01:50:29,109 --> 01:50:27,040
um they would say the the gap was ufos

3158
01:50:32,070 --> 01:50:29,119
you know the theory is there's always

3159
01:50:33,270 --> 01:50:32,080
that the art could be a ufo time things

3160
01:50:35,189 --> 01:50:33,280
like that

3161
01:50:37,830 --> 01:50:35,199
personally i believe it all lines up and

3162
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:37,840
it's all why the earth is is why it is

3163
01:50:42,870 --> 01:50:40,480
now you know god and maybe a lot of them

3164
01:50:44,950 --> 01:50:42,880
creatures i believe survived actually

3165
01:50:47,990 --> 01:50:44,960
especially like the gin yes different

3166
01:50:49,510 --> 01:50:48,000
creatures they talk about

3167
01:50:53,030 --> 01:50:49,520
yeah

3168
01:50:56,870 --> 01:50:53,040
to this day i mean you know the okay

3169
01:50:58,790 --> 01:50:56,880
david versus goliath was a giant so

3170
01:51:00,550 --> 01:50:58,800
that's like we kind of know it i always

3171
01:51:02,790 --> 01:51:00,560
feel like we know it but for some reason

3172
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:02,800
we just don't want to

3173
01:51:06,550 --> 01:51:04,719
well it's not even a far stretch far as

3174
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:06,560
like the the evidence that like that

3175
01:51:10,390 --> 01:51:08,080
interview that you did there josh with

3176
01:51:11,750 --> 01:51:10,400
you and artemis with uh hugh newman um

3177
01:51:13,030 --> 01:51:11,760
and i think akashi chris obviously was

3178
01:51:14,470 --> 01:51:13,040
on there with you too but

3179
01:51:17,189 --> 01:51:14,480
as well yeah

3180
01:51:19,589 --> 01:51:17,199
uh defining the on average seven eight

3181
01:51:21,030 --> 01:51:19,599
foot uh human being here in north

3182
01:51:22,870 --> 01:51:21,040
america in particular was the most

3183
01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:22,880
prominent that was across the board yeah

3184
01:51:26,709 --> 01:51:24,800
which grant at the time was was much

3185
01:51:27,750 --> 01:51:26,719
above have i think the average male at

3186
01:51:29,669 --> 01:51:27,760
the time

3187
01:51:31,669 --> 01:51:29,679
was five foot two or five before they

3188
01:51:33,990 --> 01:51:31,679
were doing something like that yeah but

3189
01:51:36,870 --> 01:51:34,000
the point being it's nowadays that's not

3190
01:51:38,550 --> 01:51:36,880
a stretch i mean look at the nba come on

3191
01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:38,560
we look at all just children being born

3192
01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:41,679
anymore everybody has and there's a

3193
01:51:43,990 --> 01:51:43,199
whole reason for that but the point

3194
01:51:45,430 --> 01:51:44,000
being

3195
01:51:47,030 --> 01:51:45,440
some people act like it's such a crazy

3196
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:47,040
number we're putting out there

3197
01:51:50,390 --> 01:51:48,719
that's really not that crazy it's when

3198
01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:50,400
you start getting to 12

3199
01:51:55,030 --> 01:51:52,800
plus feet that you're like right yeah i

3200
01:51:56,950 --> 01:51:55,040
can't i can't remember the the biggest

3201
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:56,960
giant what he's

3202
01:52:01,750 --> 01:51:58,320
found evidenced i think he said it was

3203
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:01,760
like 20 foot or something 21 feet there

3204
01:52:06,149 --> 01:52:03,760
21 foot yeah

3205
01:52:08,550 --> 01:52:06,159
well here's here's where my

3206
01:52:10,149 --> 01:52:08,560
background comes in realisticness and

3207
01:52:12,470 --> 01:52:10,159
law enforcement and everything else is

3208
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:12,480
kind of sniffing out [\h__\h]

3209
01:52:15,589 --> 01:52:13,440
okay

3210
01:52:18,070 --> 01:52:15,599
why would you make this [\h__\h] lie

3211
01:52:20,629 --> 01:52:18,080
yeah why would you make this up for what

3212
01:52:23,589 --> 01:52:20,639
purpose does it serve it doesn't serve

3213
01:52:26,470 --> 01:52:23,599
as most you know most of these ghost

3214
01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:26,480
stories and mythologies or to teach your

3215
01:52:30,550 --> 01:52:28,960
kids to stay away from rivers to teach

3216
01:52:32,950 --> 01:52:30,560
your kids stay away from dangerous

3217
01:52:34,470 --> 01:52:32,960
things but what have you okay

3218
01:52:37,430 --> 01:52:34,480
what purpose

3219
01:52:40,629 --> 01:52:37,440
does it have to have

3220
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:40,639
this mythology about these giants what

3221
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:42,480
purpose does it serve to tell you to

3222
01:52:46,149 --> 01:52:44,400
stay away from tall people

3223
01:52:47,830 --> 01:52:46,159
what purpose does it serve it makes no

3224
01:52:49,750 --> 01:52:47,840
[\h__\h] purpose whatsoever

3225
01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:49,760
don't trust parents

3226
01:52:57,270 --> 01:52:55,990
you know so what purpose does it serve

3227
01:52:58,629 --> 01:52:57,280
what are they telling you to stay away

3228
01:53:00,709 --> 01:52:58,639
from what you're right

3229
01:53:01,990 --> 01:53:00,719
ideology does this have

3230
01:53:06,550 --> 01:53:02,000
you know

3231
01:53:07,830 --> 01:53:06,560
like la la rona telling you to stay away

3232
01:53:10,629 --> 01:53:07,840
from the rivers

3233
01:53:13,030 --> 01:53:10,639
you know and what have you what purpose

3234
01:53:15,189 --> 01:53:13,040
does saying giants existed and we had to

3235
01:53:17,350 --> 01:53:15,199
come

3236
01:53:19,910 --> 01:53:17,360
honestly i believe if you read the bible

3237
01:53:21,669 --> 01:53:19,920
it's a lot of the same good versus evil

3238
01:53:23,589 --> 01:53:21,679
you know do the right thing it's always

3239
01:53:26,310 --> 01:53:23,599
like took it out of context but there's

3240
01:53:28,470 --> 01:53:26,320
a story behind it

3241
01:53:30,870 --> 01:53:28,480
and in that time they were being evil

3242
01:53:33,030 --> 01:53:30,880
they were probably eating people

3243
01:53:34,870 --> 01:53:33,040
you know and actually god

3244
01:53:36,790 --> 01:53:34,880
created us to be the

3245
01:53:39,430 --> 01:53:36,800
you know the kings of the earth so maybe

3246
01:53:42,149 --> 01:53:39,440
they were overpowering the humans

3247
01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:42,159
and there's just a lot of reasons on why

3248
01:53:45,510 --> 01:53:44,080
it actually may have really happened so

3249
01:53:47,750 --> 01:53:45,520
basically you're saying there was

3250
01:53:50,070 --> 01:53:47,760
probably giants at some point

3251
01:53:51,750 --> 01:53:50,080
yeah i mean i take it out at a literal

3252
01:53:53,669 --> 01:53:51,760
you know like maybe we were alive with

3253
01:53:57,910 --> 01:53:53,679
the dinosaurs they've even maybe proven

3254
01:54:00,870 --> 01:53:57,920
that we were cavemen are a real thing

3255
01:54:03,270 --> 01:54:00,880
in that documentary about um dinosaurs i

3256
01:54:04,790 --> 01:54:03,280
think it was some like the 70s it could

3257
01:54:07,910 --> 01:54:04,800
be i think it's on youtube but there's

3258
01:54:09,589 --> 01:54:07,920
like a documentary um which is in like

3259
01:54:11,270 --> 01:54:09,599
the amazon and they

3260
01:54:13,510 --> 01:54:11,280
find a dinosaur

3261
01:54:15,030 --> 01:54:13,520
apparently like you you need to check

3262
01:54:17,109 --> 01:54:15,040
check that out oh i know what you're

3263
01:54:20,149 --> 01:54:17,119
talking about it's like the old black

3264
01:54:21,430 --> 01:54:20,159
and white footage yeah yeah yeah yeah

3265
01:54:23,030 --> 01:54:21,440
yeah i know which one you're talking

3266
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:23,040
about but i thought that wasn't i

3267
01:54:27,189 --> 01:54:25,119
thought that that was like uh yeah the

3268
01:54:28,390 --> 01:54:27,199
last one is fake or not but like it's

3269
01:54:30,629 --> 01:54:28,400
it's interesting

3270
01:54:33,350 --> 01:54:30,639
you see if you haven't seen it yet but

3271
01:54:35,750 --> 01:54:33,360
yeah it's interesting

3272
01:54:37,910 --> 01:54:35,760
yeah i just think it's hard to

3273
01:54:39,430 --> 01:54:37,920
i i do get why people get so worried

3274
01:54:41,430 --> 01:54:39,440
when they start coming you know they

3275
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:41,440
come across a panel like this and like

3276
01:54:45,430 --> 01:54:44,159
wow pump the brakes right first half

3277
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:45,440
well okay we'll talk about a few things

3278
01:54:49,750 --> 01:54:47,119
but now we're talking dinosaurs and

3279
01:54:50,550 --> 01:54:49,760
giants in a second yeah we're going deep

3280
01:54:52,149 --> 01:54:50,560
but

3281
01:54:54,229 --> 01:54:52,159
i freaking love

3282
01:54:55,669 --> 01:54:54,239
you know exploring the options who who

3283
01:54:56,790 --> 01:54:55,679
was it that said i don't remember who

3284
01:55:00,470 --> 01:54:56,800
was

3285
01:55:02,310 --> 01:55:00,480
like the sign of intelligence being the

3286
01:55:03,910 --> 01:55:02,320
idea that you can go and really have the

3287
01:55:05,350 --> 01:55:03,920
conversation with somebody else or in

3288
01:55:06,629 --> 01:55:05,360
your mind but not

3289
01:55:08,149 --> 01:55:06,639
agree with it

3290
01:55:09,430 --> 01:55:08,159
i can't i don't feel like i'm saying the

3291
01:55:10,310 --> 01:55:09,440
wrong who's the other famous one that

3292
01:55:11,990 --> 01:55:10,320
would paint and he couldn't finish

3293
01:55:13,990 --> 01:55:12,000
anything leonardo da vinci it was

3294
01:55:15,510 --> 01:55:14,000
leonardo you don't happen you don't have

3295
01:55:20,470 --> 01:55:15,520
to agree you have to accept the

3296
01:55:25,669 --> 01:55:23,270
like i said every every lie

3297
01:55:27,109 --> 01:55:25,679
is every lie that you've ever told in

3298
01:55:30,550 --> 01:55:27,119
your life

3299
01:55:32,550 --> 01:55:30,560
is based on some kind of

3300
01:55:34,709 --> 01:55:32,560
you know realistic situation

3301
01:55:37,109 --> 01:55:34,719
that happened you build upon it you know

3302
01:55:39,430 --> 01:55:37,119
you've altered it or what have you yeah

3303
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:39,440
you have to look back to human history

3304
01:55:44,229 --> 01:55:41,679
every story that's been told

3305
01:55:46,870 --> 01:55:44,239
sorry that's cassie text me but

3306
01:55:47,910 --> 01:55:46,880
every story that you've been told

3307
01:55:51,030 --> 01:55:47,920
is

3308
01:55:52,229 --> 01:55:51,040
based in some kind of

3309
01:55:54,790 --> 01:55:52,239
solid

3310
01:55:56,070 --> 01:55:54,800
you know situation that's just the way i

3311
01:55:58,629 --> 01:55:56,080
feel

3312
01:56:00,470 --> 01:55:58,639
true yeah and i mean go back to i was

3313
01:56:01,270 --> 01:56:00,480
gonna say i think it's a lost art of

3314
01:56:03,350 --> 01:56:01,280
like

3315
01:56:04,550 --> 01:56:03,360
to be on the opposite side of things and

3316
01:56:08,390 --> 01:56:04,560
yet still

3317
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:08,400
listen to the other person you know

3318
01:56:11,430 --> 01:56:09,520
very true

3319
01:56:13,270 --> 01:56:11,440
if you can't debate the opponent's side

3320
01:56:14,950 --> 01:56:13,280
of the argument you have no point being

3321
01:56:16,229 --> 01:56:14,960
in the argument

3322
01:56:19,350 --> 01:56:16,239
yeah exactly

3323
01:56:21,589 --> 01:56:19,360
like i hear you i you know you guys and

3324
01:56:24,390 --> 01:56:21,599
if if you don't have the education or

3325
01:56:26,390 --> 01:56:24,400
intelligence to debate then just

3326
01:56:29,189 --> 01:56:26,400
let it go

3327
01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:29,199
yeah let the grown-ups talk

3328
01:56:32,629 --> 01:56:30,800
that's sorry

3329
01:56:33,750 --> 01:56:32,639
oh enzo you're right he couldn't finish

3330
01:56:35,669 --> 01:56:33,760
anything it's one of the reasons why i

3331
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:35,679
love him i've always asked people this

3332
01:56:38,310 --> 01:56:36,800
and i know we only have three minutes at

3333
01:56:40,149 --> 01:56:38,320
the end of the show here but

3334
01:56:42,229 --> 01:56:40,159
one of my favorite questions to ask

3335
01:56:43,589 --> 01:56:42,239
people like our stranger and when i

3336
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:43,599
first meet them as i'll just ask them

3337
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:44,800
what their middle name is right off the

3338
01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:46,159
bat because it's such a weird thing to

3339
01:56:49,669 --> 01:56:48,000
ask somebody and i feel like they always

3340
01:56:50,790 --> 01:56:49,679
remember me like if i meet so many years

3341
01:56:51,990 --> 01:56:50,800
later they're like here's that guy who

3342
01:56:53,669 --> 01:56:52,000
asked me with my middle name i don't

3343
01:56:55,589 --> 01:56:53,679
know why but it like sticks with them

3344
01:56:56,550 --> 01:56:55,599
and then the second favorite question in

3345
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:56,560
the world

3346
01:56:59,750 --> 01:56:57,760
and i'll leave you guys with this you

3347
01:57:01,510 --> 01:56:59,760
can come back with this answer one day

3348
01:57:02,790 --> 01:57:01,520
if you could have three people over for

3349
01:57:04,390 --> 01:57:02,800
dinner

3350
01:57:06,149 --> 01:57:04,400
hang out the whole day and make it a

3351
01:57:07,589 --> 01:57:06,159
whole day you can hang out with them

3352
01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:07,599
past or present

3353
01:57:11,750 --> 01:57:10,320
language is no barrier who are your

3354
01:57:13,990 --> 01:57:11,760
three people

3355
01:57:14,950 --> 01:57:14,000
and most importantly why those three

3356
01:57:16,709 --> 01:57:14,960
people

3357
01:57:18,790 --> 01:57:16,719
don't have to be alive now it can be

3358
01:57:20,390 --> 01:57:18,800
anything no anybody okay throughout all

3359
01:57:21,510 --> 01:57:20,400
it wouldn't taste as good if they're not

3360
01:57:22,830 --> 01:57:21,520
still alive

3361
01:57:28,470 --> 01:57:22,840
yeah

3362
01:57:30,070 --> 01:57:28,480
but it's a fun one it makes people think

3363
01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:30,080
about it a little bit and go around the

3364
01:57:33,189 --> 01:57:31,119
table

3365
01:57:34,790 --> 01:57:33,199
do you guys know well we only have two

3366
01:57:36,070 --> 01:57:34,800
minutes we don't want to rush on crowley

3367
01:57:37,750 --> 01:57:36,080
but if you already know yeah please

3368
01:57:40,950 --> 01:57:37,760
share who do you think you'd want and

3369
01:57:43,109 --> 01:57:40,960
most importantly why that person

3370
01:57:45,750 --> 01:57:43,119
and you in the chat too if you guys know

3371
01:57:48,310 --> 01:57:45,760
yeah such a tough question they say

3372
01:57:49,750 --> 01:57:48,320
oh and my middle name is artemis so

3373
01:57:52,470 --> 01:57:49,760
oh

3374
01:57:54,790 --> 01:57:52,480
we're unveiling the mysteries yeah

3375
01:57:55,990 --> 01:57:54,800
my first name is anastasia

3376
01:57:57,669 --> 01:57:56,000
oh that's a

3377
01:58:00,070 --> 01:57:57,679
wow you have quite the name it's the

3378
01:58:00,950 --> 01:58:00,080
most fun two really cool names can i do

3379
01:58:09,430 --> 01:58:00,960
three

3380
01:58:13,189 --> 01:58:09,440
buddha

3381
01:58:17,030 --> 01:58:14,470
nice nice

3382
01:58:18,390 --> 01:58:17,040
the reasoning why

3383
01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:18,400
because

3384
01:58:20,950 --> 01:58:19,760
buddha

3385
01:58:22,350 --> 01:58:20,960
soul

3386
01:58:25,350 --> 01:58:22,360
life

3387
01:58:26,470 --> 01:58:25,360
introspectively and completely and ben

3388
01:58:28,790 --> 01:58:26,480
and joe

3389
01:58:30,950 --> 01:58:28,800
look outside the box

3390
01:58:33,189 --> 01:58:30,960
and try to see life from a different

3391
01:58:35,430 --> 01:58:33,199
perspective so there you go put those

3392
01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:35,440
two together you got the whole answer

3393
01:58:42,629 --> 01:58:36,320
true

3394
01:58:44,629 --> 01:58:42,639
they do make us all laugh uh all right

3395
01:58:47,669 --> 01:58:44,639
michael go for it what is yours

3396
01:58:49,350 --> 01:58:47,679
okay i would say jesus just because it

3397
01:58:51,350 --> 01:58:49,360
seems very

3398
01:58:53,030 --> 01:58:51,360
extraordinary

3399
01:58:54,870 --> 01:58:53,040
one second i forgot you can totally roll

3400
01:58:56,470 --> 01:58:54,880
with jesus i'm not taking jesus away but

3401
01:58:58,310 --> 01:58:56,480
i forgot that was one caveat you put in

3402
01:59:00,470 --> 01:58:58,320
there's eliminate whatever deity you

3403
01:59:01,910 --> 01:59:00,480
believe in and passed on family members

3404
01:59:03,830 --> 01:59:01,920
because we tend to fill our table with

3405
01:59:05,910 --> 01:59:03,840
them now you can totally roll with jesus

3406
01:59:08,629 --> 01:59:05,920
at your table i'm not saying you can

3407
01:59:09,990 --> 01:59:08,639
bring jesus to the table boris johnson

3408
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:10,000
yeah

3409
01:59:13,830 --> 01:59:12,480
vince mcmahon and

3410
01:59:15,430 --> 01:59:13,840
sony music

3411
01:59:17,669 --> 01:59:15,440
records

3412
01:59:22,390 --> 01:59:17,679
because i'm on fire man

3413
01:59:25,510 --> 01:59:22,400
interesting why why uh why vince mcmahon

3414
01:59:27,350 --> 01:59:25,520
oh well i mean i'm the huge wwe fan and

3415
01:59:29,350 --> 01:59:27,360
as far as a role model vince mcmahon

3416
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:29,360
showed me a lot like

3417
01:59:36,310 --> 01:59:33,440
get the championship like triple h

3418
01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:36,320
there's stables groups eddie guerrero

3419
01:59:40,629 --> 01:59:38,480
your favorites the undertaker everyone's

3420
01:59:42,709 --> 01:59:40,639
afraid of and

3421
01:59:44,470 --> 01:59:42,719
so vince mcmahon has like a whole lot

3422
01:59:45,750 --> 01:59:44,480
and he's buff he wrestles with all them

3423
01:59:46,950 --> 01:59:45,760
guys

3424
01:59:48,390 --> 01:59:46,960
do you remember

3425
01:59:50,229 --> 01:59:48,400
i don't know much about wrestling at all

3426
01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:50,239
but the funniest thing i've ever seen

3427
01:59:54,470 --> 01:59:52,639
was uh who is it was wrestling i think

3428
01:59:56,550 --> 01:59:54,480
it was oh is it the rock and his dad or

3429
01:59:57,910 --> 01:59:56,560
somebody anyways vince mcmahon comes

3430
01:59:59,270 --> 01:59:57,920
running out because they're not sure oh

3431
02:00:00,950 --> 01:59:59,280
it was two other guys were wrestling and

3432
02:00:02,470 --> 02:00:00,960
they misperformed the move so that guy

3433
02:00:03,750 --> 02:00:02,480
lost he was supposed to win and vince

3434
02:00:05,109 --> 02:00:03,760
mcmahon was coming running out supposed

3435
02:00:07,189 --> 02:00:05,119
to like i'm gonna give the belt to the

3436
02:00:09,750 --> 02:00:07,199
other guy and he jumped into the ring

3437
02:00:12,310 --> 02:00:09,760
and he he broke or snapped both of his

3438
02:00:14,629 --> 02:00:12,320
hamstrings do you remember that oh my

3439
02:00:16,709 --> 02:00:14,639
god jumping into the ring he slid i kind

3440
02:00:18,470 --> 02:00:16,719
of remember that i remember

3441
02:00:19,830 --> 02:00:18,480
nobody knew what he was doing because he

3442
02:00:21,270 --> 02:00:19,840
just sat on the floor looking at

3443
02:00:23,109 --> 02:00:21,280
everybody and they didn't know the guy

3444
02:00:24,790 --> 02:00:23,119
was in so much pain he had snapped i

3445
02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:24,800
think i'm pretty sure it was both his

3446
02:00:29,189 --> 02:00:26,560
hamstrings simultaneously i'm like how

3447
02:00:30,310 --> 02:00:29,199
does that happen oh my god

3448
02:00:32,629 --> 02:00:30,320
this makes me sound like i'm really like

3449
02:00:34,790 --> 02:00:32,639
a wwe fan but i just know that like one

3450
02:00:36,470 --> 02:00:34,800
thing about my fake willy house like i

3451
02:00:40,470 --> 02:00:36,480
don't know much but

3452
02:00:43,589 --> 02:00:42,310
i don't know anything about wrestling i

3453
02:00:44,470 --> 02:00:43,599
promise

3454
02:00:46,470 --> 02:00:44,480
um

3455
02:00:47,430 --> 02:00:46,480
well anyways guys we will continue

3456
02:00:48,790 --> 02:00:47,440
obviously

3457
02:00:49,830 --> 02:00:48,800
uh probably off air for anybody i'll

3458
02:00:51,669 --> 02:00:49,840
drop the link one more time usually

3459
02:00:53,350 --> 02:00:51,679
anybody who wants to jump in

3460
02:00:55,270 --> 02:00:53,360
is more than welcome to i'm also going

3461
02:00:56,870 --> 02:00:55,280
to drop the links again to josh and

3462
02:00:59,030 --> 02:00:56,880
artemis's shows and there are different

3463
02:01:00,550 --> 02:00:59,040
links you can follow them on thank you

3464
02:01:02,390 --> 02:01:00,560
so very much for coming on being our

3465
02:01:04,229 --> 02:01:02,400
guest here this fine evening

3466
02:01:05,910 --> 02:01:04,239
thank you for those thank you yeah

3467
02:01:07,510 --> 02:01:05,920
absolutely

3468
02:01:08,470 --> 02:01:07,520
blessed and appreciative to meet you

3469
02:01:10,870 --> 02:01:08,480
guys

3470
02:01:12,950 --> 02:01:10,880
thank you for the theme here everybody

3471
02:01:14,870 --> 02:01:12,960
guys thank you so much and um yeah i

3472
02:01:17,350 --> 02:01:14,880
mean i'm sure we'll probably see

3473
02:01:20,229 --> 02:01:17,360
like a panel soon as well so yeah we'll

3474
02:01:26,149 --> 02:01:20,239
probably see you all again soon

3475
02:01:29,510 --> 02:01:27,910
tomorrow night so and we open up the

3476
02:01:30,149 --> 02:01:29,520
stream for that one so if you guys want

3477
02:01:47,830 --> 02:01:30,159
to

3478
02:01:50,390 --> 02:01:49,030
very nice

3479
02:01:52,310 --> 02:01:50,400
oh by the way just as a shout out for

3480
02:01:54,790 --> 02:01:52,320
ren uh since she did name two of hers at

3481
02:01:56,310 --> 02:01:54,800
least bob lazar because duh and that one

3482
02:01:58,790 --> 02:01:56,320
guy that lived under a rock out in

3483
02:02:00,070 --> 02:01:58,800
joshua tree i don't care i don't know

3484
02:02:01,270 --> 02:02:00,080
the third

3485
02:02:02,629 --> 02:02:01,280
i don't know if i know the guy who lived

3486
02:02:03,830 --> 02:02:02,639
in the joshua tree rock does anybody

3487
02:02:06,229 --> 02:02:03,840
know that i've topped their head trying

3488
02:02:07,830 --> 02:02:06,239
to remember yeah no i don't know hey but

3489
02:02:09,830 --> 02:02:07,840
you know what that would bring that guy

3490
02:02:11,910 --> 02:02:09,840
that lived under the tree okay you bring

3491
02:02:13,430 --> 02:02:11,920
him to the table that's fair

3492
02:02:16,470 --> 02:02:13,440
all right guys as i always say when

3493
02:02:19,310 --> 02:02:16,480
ending the show please stay curious and

3494
02:03:09,650 --> 02:02:19,320
keep it weird